Absolutely disapointed -- This game is hard, and not in a fun way.

They stated 6-12 months till final release, but in fact, it will be 24 months. In 2026 we will have Titan Quest II and a far superior, perfect Last Epoch, and the latter really defined intuitive, useful new (trading, crafting, etc.) systems. PoE 2 has no chance to survive, in my opinion. (And who knows where D4 is heading.)
Last edited by yesname#5945 on Dec 8, 2024, 3:45:53 AM
You played POE for thousands of hours and you can't beat the act 1 boss shows how bad POE1 is compared to POE2 training bad players. I only have 200 hours in POE, never watched any guides or youtubers, just played casually doing whatever I want. Only played maybe less than 20 end game maps and I still beat act 1 boss after 3 tries.

It's incredibly fun, but anything is unfun if you keep losing 10000 times without any way to improve it. I don't want to sound like that guy but it's a skill issue... and you don't even need to be very good to beat act 1 boss. This is a situation where you should just say right I'm going to get a bit better.
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yesname#5945 wrote:
They stated 6-12 months till final release, but in fact, it will be 24 months. In 2026 we will have Titan Quest II and a far superior, perfect Last Epoch, and the latter really defined intuitive, useful new (trading, crafting, etc.) systems. PoE 2 has no chance to survive, in my opinion. (And who knows where D4 is heading.)


This is really a wild take man. Last Epoch will be niché at best, just like Grim Dawn in comparison to Diablo and Path of Exile games. Does absolutely NOT mean these are bad games, quite the opposite. LE and Grim Dawn rule. Titan Quest 2 early showings were to me very underwhelming in terms of visuals and fluidity. PoE2 no chance to survive?? Again, wild take imho. I think it has actually the biggest chances of them all, simply because everything people complain about can be adjusted relatively easy while you can still keep the core identity of PoE2, meaning the fact its a slower paced game. So i think PoE2 is the most modern thinking and advanced ARPG on the market right now. But it needs A FKKKING LOT of finetuning. And this is exactly why we are here discussing and debating this in Early Access. Writing the game off in version 0.1 by any ARPG fan is a huge mistake in my eyes.
Last edited by th3orist#5387 on Dec 8, 2024, 4:08:48 AM
From limited experience I have so far (ACT 2), I prefer POE 2, by a lot.

POE 2 still can use some tuning and currency/drops should be increased in campaign, but I don't want to see 6 portal meta or brain-dead campaigns and fights in POE 2.

POE 1 will still be updated, so anyone who really dislike the philosophy of POE 2, can always return.
Last edited by Waiden#9514 on Dec 8, 2024, 3:58:06 AM
Elden ring bosses are fun, I am banging my head against geowhatever and IT IS NOT FUN! GGG why did you forget that the most important thing, beyond all else, is that its fun?

I quit!
I don't mind MOST of the mechanics. The numbers, though... I'm +3 on monster level for the act 1 boss, carrying 43% cold resist (I consider that a pretty good amount for extremely early in a campaign), 593 energy shield, and am basically unthreatened by the whole fight... until it goes into the wolf rush, where you're GOING to get hit as a sorc just due to cast times and sheer numbers. When I'm lucky, I can burn off enough and roll around enough to get through. When I'm not, and wolves stun me too much to cast and block rolling, I'm tissue paper with no chance to correct.

As noted in another thread, I've still got some really old gear because I'm playing solo and nothing better has dropped, but act 1 is really too early to expect players to reclear zones for drops.

Whether it's the boss tuning or the gear not being adequate, The King in the Mists and the Act 1 boss have just been seriously difficult in ways that just aren't fun.
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th3orist#5387 wrote:
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yesname#5945 wrote:
So i think PoE2 is the most modern thinking and advanced ARPG on the market right now.


I'm going to need some more on this my man. Can you show me anything in POE2 right now that is new, innovative or not being done some where else, better.

I think its one thing to say its got some issues, or its doing some ok stuff, but to try and believe its doing anything remotely new or best-in-genre right now is a big stretch.
I'm done buying anything until we get some clarity on the future of POE1 and POE2 and I know GGG plans to spend effort on a game I want to play.

Tell us if POE1 still has your top tier support or if POE2 will get a mode for more casual play.
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Elden ring bosses are fun, I am banging my head against geowhatever and IT IS NOT FUN! GGG why did you forget that the most important thing, beyond all else, is that its fun?

I quit!


What is fun?
it is very subjective.
I am instead, find it fun to go farm better gear or tune the build, if i can't do the boss rather than go fight on forums :D
PoE nowadays looks more and more like a fork server with tons of custom weird experimental stuff rather than original game with carefully thought out balance brough live to players.
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th3orist#5387 wrote:
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yesname#5945 wrote:
So i think PoE2 is the most modern thinking and advanced ARPG on the market right now.


I'm going to need some more on this my man. Can you show me anything in POE2 right now that is new, innovative or not being done some where else, better.

I think its one thing to say its got some issues, or its doing some ok stuff, but to try and believe its doing anything remotely new or best-in-genre right now is a big stretch.


I can not come up with a specific area where it does something that has never been done before but this is also not what i mean when i said what you quoted. I mean more like the overall flow and feeling of the game with its current systems. The way the mechanics are structured around your character combined with the slower pace. If you want to point out an area where it does something new, this one could be it: Its the slowest ARPG (No rest for the wicked is not a classic arpg in the strict sense of the word (meaning diablo/poe-like) so i exclude that). The vibe PoE2 gives combining the classic elements of arpgs with elements more akin to souls-like and with a complexity akin to PoE1 is as a sum what makes me say what you quoted from me.
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th3orist#5387 wrote:
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yesname#5945 wrote:
So i think PoE2 is the most modern thinking and advanced ARPG on the market right now.


I'm going to need some more on this my man. Can you show me anything in POE2 right now that is new, innovative or not being done some where else, better.

I think its one thing to say its got some issues, or its doing some ok stuff, but to try and believe its doing anything remotely new or best-in-genre right now is a big stretch.


Your quote is wrong, I think, because I did not write that. :)

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