Stop allowing streamers to have input on Gauntlet.

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SilentSymphony wrote:

Please give the game back to the community GGG.

Taking it that way streamer and content creators are also just part of the community, but they are somehow not allowed to get events going?
You can't be serious here

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Pashid wrote:

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SilentSymphony wrote:

Please give the game back to the community GGG.

Taking it that way streamer and content creators are also just part of the community, but they are somehow not allowed to get events going?
You can't be serious here

No I'm not saying that, You are implying(this is a question not a statement)perhaps that i am? But again no.

I just support the general notion of the thread, Not to literal levels however i would never actually want streamers cut out of the mix that would be suicide for the game, but GGG could do better in regards for the general population.

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SilentSymphony wrote:

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SerialF wrote:

can you at least have the basic human decency to change the title of this thread ? streamers are the ones doing all the work. just this time did ggg add the extra mods on bosses.

Streamers get payed especially popular ones supported by game developers and in doing these events tend to also make money from that.

I don't see how any of them are owed an apology by the OP, Its unlikely they will ever come to this forum and read it.

Please give the game back to the community GGG.

I'll just put this here.

This thread has just turned into 13 year old internet trolling and is going no where.

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Lonnie455Rich wrote:

This thread has just turned into 13 year old internet trolling and is going no where.

It could go somewhere if the opposing party's could come to some kind of understanding which is very difficult to achieve in this forum.

I want to see a future PoE where these threads don't ever pop up because things got ironed out and everyone feels good with the events and other aspects of the game overall.

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SilentSymphony wrote:

I want to see a future PoE where these threads don't ever pop up because things got ironed out and everyone feels good with the events and other aspects of the game overall.

You are arguing in bad faith though.....no one can come to an agreement (with you) because you keep saying you are NOT saying what you very clearly ARE saying. You say things like "bring the game back to the community", which LITERALLY translates to the streamers being outside of the community.....and then immediately say thats not at all what you meant?! Which is it? It's like your previous argument with me a few pages ago. To come to a consensus, we need to have a reasonably equal understanding of the issue. But the other side (OP, others) are being deliberately unreasonable.

Like the very title of this thread: an event created and funded by streamers is supposed to not have their input? They put in the time, effort, AND money. Anyone in the community can do this with enough drive. But they DON'T. Ziz and friends have consistently made the enormous effort of funding, finding sponsors, advertising, designing this event in the way THEY want it to be. They are essentially the "developers" of this event and all creative control is in their hands, as you would expect the normal game to be in the hands of GGG.


Also for everyone to keep in mind: the gauntlet happens ONCE a year. Once. GGG generally does end-of-league events nearly every other league or every three leagues. Generally MORE than once a year. Have at least a bit of perspective. It was less than a year ago that GGG ran their last 4 special events, on top of a convention and devleoping and releasing PoE 2. Already thats 4x as many events as this gauntlet. People talk as if there are NO EVENTS EVER from GGG which is just not true.

And those events tend to be wildly different in their appeals, so GGG is actively trying. They just don't have the ability (for one reason or another) to run these events every single league, and keep them interesting and new. Most of their novel ideas go into the new league, rather than some week long or 2-week long event. Which I for one think is probably a much better use of their time.

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mefistozxz wrote:

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SilentSymphony wrote:

I want to see a future PoE where these threads don't ever pop up because things got ironed out and everyone feels good with the events and other aspects of the game overall.

You are arguing in bad faith though.....no one can come to an agreement (with you) because you keep saying you are NOT saying what you very clearly ARE saying. You say things like "bring the game back to the community", which LITERALLY translates to the streamers being outside of the community.....and then immediately say thats not at all what you meant?! Which is it? It's like your previous argument with me a few pages ago. To come to a consensus, we need to have a reasonably equal understanding of the issue. But the other side (OP, others) are being deliberately unreasonable.


Also for everyone to keep in mind: the gauntlet happens ONCE a year. Once. GGG generally does end-of-league events nearly every other league or every three leagues. Generally MORE than once a year. Have at least a bit of perspective. Last time there were end of league events, there were FOUR of them running. Already thats 4x as many events as this gauntlet. People talk as if there are NO EVENTS EVER from GGG which is just not true.

And those events tend to be wildly different in their appeals, so GGG is actively trying. They just don't have the ability (for one reason or another) to run these events every single league, and keep them interesting and new. Most of their novel ideas go into the new league, rather than some week long or 2-week long event. Which I for one think is probably a much better use of their time.

One post back i gave my general feelings on the topic as to the lengths of which im really supporting it, If you'd like to discuss that we can.

And perhaps yourself and Pashid are simply taking the "Give the game back to the community" comment a bit too literally?

Stay safe exile.

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SilentSymphony wrote:

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Lonnie455Rich wrote:

This thread has just turned into 13 year old internet trolling and is going no where.

It could go somewhere if the opposing party's could come to some kind of understanding which is very difficult to achieve in this forum.

I want to see a future PoE where these threads don't ever pop up because things got ironed out and everyone feels good with the events and other aspects of the game overall.

My understanding is that you are implying that the gauntlet existing is alienating the community because ggg doesn't have time to do other events.

The gauntlet is a private league created and funded by the community and sponsors.

You cannot have a sc gauntlet, there are no if, ands or buts. It would be horrible content to watch sc players corpse run bosses 74 times trying to do the campaign with 31 fire res and 1200 hp.

Why doesn't world of warcraft have race to world first events for raid finder?

Why isn't the mdi based off of m+1 dungeons?

Making content balancing around the floor of difficulty makes things boring.

You're accusing everyone else to have no understanding. At the same time as misunderstanding how the gauntlet even came about. While not budging at all yourself. All you have to do is learn to play hardcore. Thats all.

Speaking of sc events, how many times have you won bpl?

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SilentSymphony wrote:

And perhaps yourself and Pashid are simply taking the "Give the game back to the community" comment a bit too literally?

Stay safe exile.

So you are saying your posts are meaningless because you aren't saying what you actually think? Wonderful. I'm sure we can definitely have a great conversation then!

In your own words....your words don't mean what they say. And you accuse us of not being understanding and obtuse? That is wild.

If anything, the Gauntlet is the very definition of the game being with the community. It is the biggest, most well-funded, most well-attended event in the history of PoE events. And it is completely designed and crowd-funded BY the community. And you are using it as an example of the game NOT being with the community. Where do the streamers get the money and funding and sponsors to run events like this? From community members supporting them. Not GGG.

Even GGG events can't boast this level of connection with the community.

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Lonnie455Rich wrote:

You're accusing everyone else to have no understanding.

Got a quote?

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mefistozxz wrote:

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SilentSymphony wrote:

And perhaps yourself and Pashid are simply taking the "Give the game back to the community" comment a bit too literally?

Stay safe exile.

So you are saying your posts are meaningless because you aren't saying what you actually think? Wonderful. I'm sure we can definitely have a great conversation then!

In your own words....your words don't mean what they say. And you accuse us of not being understanding and obtuse? That is wild.

If anything, the Gauntlet is the very definition of the game being with the community. It is the biggest, most well-funded, most well-attended event in the history of PoE events. And it is completely designed and crowd-funded BY the community. And you are using it as an example of the game NOT being with the community. Where do the streamers get the money and funding and sponsors to run events like this? From community members supporting them. Not GGG.

Even GGG events can't boast this level of connection with the community.

I cant help you perceive what i said differently other than telling you that the particular statement in which you were speaking on was not meant as literally as you have stated it was in whatever context.

It really isn't so complicated, people just want an event to play at the end of a league to have fun. I don't even play these events to win them as if they're some kind of competition, I just do it usually for a free box and mtx raffles while seeing how the custom content is in them. And when I reach the highest target level for the raffle(or a level which is at the last batch of mtx I care about) then I stop playing. Those are the only reasons I ever play in any custom event. Maybe other people play them more even after reaching lvl95.

And it's just undeniable that if an event is in some specific mode of the game like hc then it's severely limiting the amount of people that would even try it out.

I'm just saying that if this gauntlet at least had an sc version a lot more people could enjoy something at the end of a league cycle. Or that it would be nice to get more custom league events by GGG in general. I have nothing more to say really, I'd just be repeating myself again. All I can do is hope for more events in the future that can be enjoyed by the majority of the community.