The Self Found League

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Temper wrote:

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Thaelyn wrote:

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Temper wrote:

When you die the character is dead,gone,a ghost.Just like D2. and just about any other game with a hardcore mode.Softcore economy problem solved.

There's no need for this in a no trading league. Without the ability to trade, there is no economy to ruin, therefore, no SC economy problem to solve.

If you want perma death for a HC self found league for the sake of perma death, that's a matter for another discussion. However, given the basic premise of no trading, HC characters moving to the default version of this league would have precisely zero impact (apart from any loss the HC player may feel).

lol

Yeah I was having a brainfart.Happens more often the older I get. =P

I'm following too many threads to keep a clear mind at 4am. hahaa

When I first looked at this response, the only thing I saw was "lol" (hadn't scrolled down yet). I immediately thought "What did I screw up this time?" hehe

The only problem here is that dividing the community of players into a dozen or so different playmodes works great for a while, but a year or so into the game the players start complaining about not having enough players in their mode. The premise that one NEEDS to trade in order to play is faulty, because you don't need the best items the game offers in order to play. The fault of D3 is just that... you need (nearly enough) the best items to finish the game. Trading becomes essential.

I play solo... strictly solo. I don't even chat. The game will stays fun for me even with drop rates set by the mp standard because I don't compare my experience with those who choose to trade.

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The only problem here is that dividing the community of players into a dozen or so different playmodes works great for a while,...

The designers have already signaled a plan for paid leagues. Diversification is therefore inevitable. Anyway, obviously this league notion is popular because there are players who find the current solo drop rates producing gear at a rate insufficient for the rate at which they wish to progress to new content. You, therefore, aren't really part of the league's target audience, although I suspect you would play in it, if it existed.

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Huge +1 for the self found league.

Aside from the fact this league would represent a challenge like no other in PoE, it would also solve many problems the game is currently suffering from, like horrible economy or lack of, non existant trading system, endless RMT's running the default league, orb hoarding and many many more.

If this league gets implemented soon, I'll have a reason to play PoE again.

Also note that dividing the playerbase really doesn't matter too much here. Many of the folks who are pushing for this probably never bothered with Trade so the economy won't notice them at all. A good few seem to be full on soloists so they weren't participating in the party system either. Without both, the community never knew they existed. Them leaving does nothing to hurt the old league.

Meanwhile, they stop making suggestions and complaints that seek to destroy the Trade system. They also will be more likely to leave suggestions that help Trade alone, letting Trade-friendly folks being able to craft the Trade leagues into something more supportive to their desires. It's solving the "what toppings should be on the pizza" issue by just buying more pizzas.

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Dakarian wrote:

Also note that dividing the playerbase really doesn't matter too much here. Many of the folks who are pushing for this probably never bothered with Trade so the economy won't notice them at all. A good few seem to be full on soloists so they weren't participating in the party system either. Without both, the community never knew they existed. Them leaving does nothing to hurt the old league.

An excellent point. I'm one of those you're talking about as I neither trade nor party. As far as default and HC leagues are aware, I don't exist and therefore cannot be missed.

+1

+Million!

+1.
Let's push for this baby.