The Self Found League

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DirkAustin wrote:
PS: GGG wants player interaction and part of that is trading. Deal with it.


But the players that play SF don't trade, so what will really be lost?
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2ofSpades wrote:
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DirkAustin wrote:
PS: GGG wants player interaction and part of that is trading. Deal with it.


But the players that play SF don't trade, so what will really be lost?


But the players that play SF want to play with others. Or not? You find something someone else could use and you have no use for it, so you should be able to give it to that other player. SFL goes against that.
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DirkAustin wrote:
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2ofSpades wrote:
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DirkAustin wrote:
PS: GGG wants player interaction and part of that is trading. Deal with it.


But the players that play SF don't trade, so what will really be lost?


But the players that play SF want to play with others. Or not? You find something someone else could use and you have no use for it, so you should be able to give it to that other player. SFL goes against that.


I wonder what happens when a sc player finds an item that a hc player could use...

Oh wait, in both cases the other player cannot use it; which is part of the point.
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2ofSpades wrote:
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DirkAustin wrote:
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2ofSpades wrote:


But the players that play SF don't trade, so what will really be lost?


But the players that play SF want to play with others. Or not? You find something someone else could use and you have no use for it, so you should be able to give it to that other player. SFL goes against that.


I wonder what happens when a sc player finds an item that a hc player could use...

Oh wait, in both cases the other player cannot use it; which is part of the point.


oh, wait, you dont understand!!! A HC player cannot play with a SC player, duh.

In a SFL you could still party, or are you against that as well? So, someone finds BoR doesnt need it and vendors it. You could have used it but you cant trade or get it for free because oh no, SFL.

A league without trading and partying would be even more boring and empty. Wait for player created leagues, make SFL league.
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DirkAustin wrote:
oh, wait, you dont understand!!! A HC player cannot play with a SC player, duh.


You didn't understand my point, which I take responsibility for because I didn't word it in the best way.

The reason why the HC player doesn't want the SC items is because that defeats the whole point of HC. Apply this logic to the SFL. SF players do not want other player's items; that would defeat the whole point of the league. If you want to be able to receive and give items to other players, don't play in the SFL.
this league is specifically catered to noobs that cannot get good gear via trading, so they want to dumb down the game so that everyone is just as weak as them. this concept would work perfectly fine and is such a great idea. it would take all the underclassed gamers out of the real leagues and put them in a league of their own where the game becomes pointless. if you want to be a SF player then feel free to do so and keep your trade chat closed.
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Last edited by S0S#3157 on Feb 7, 2014, 12:38:33 PM
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Montogba wrote:
if you want to be a SF player then feel free to do so and keep your trade chat closed.


By this logic there shouldn't be a HCL.

If you want to be a HC player then feel free to do so and delete your character when it dies in SC.
Last edited by 2ofSpades#4172 on Feb 7, 2014, 12:49:32 PM
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2ofSpades wrote:
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Montogba wrote:
if you want to be a SF player then feel free to do so and keep your trade chat closed.


By this logic there shouldn't be a HCL.

If you want to be a HC player then feel free to do so and delete your character when it dies in SC.


exactly. if you want to base your gaming around playing "only" HCL then there is no reason to keep any items on SCL, as there would be no use for trading if your character dies. and this being said, no one plays HC without being in a HCL. which completely ruins your thought of playing HC in a SCL

and its pretty sad that this is the only thing that you pulled out of what was said.
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Montogba wrote:
exactly. if you want to base your gaming around playing "only" HCL then there is no reason to keep any items on SCL, as there would be no use for trading if your character dies.


There's a little confusion here. My previous post refereed to HC players playing in SC. A player can play HC in a SC league and just delete the Character when it dies. I did not mean that when the HC character goes from HC to SC you can delete it. Thus there is no need for a HC league to even exist if this is so. This is true unless there is another reason that HC players would want their own league. That other reasons is the same for a SFL.

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Montogba wrote:
no one plays HC without being in a HCL. which completely ruins your thought of playing HC in a SCL


Wait, but why do HC players play in the HCL when they can play the HC style in SC?
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2ofSpades wrote:
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DirkAustin wrote:
oh, wait, you dont understand!!! A HC player cannot play with a SC player, duh.


You didn't understand my point, which I take responsibility for because I didn't word it in the best way.

The reason why the HC player doesn't want the SC items is because that defeats the whole point of HC. Apply this logic to the SFL. SF players do not want other player's items; that would defeat the whole point of the league. If you want to be able to receive and give items to other players, don't play in the SFL.


I meant something more along the lines of what to do with items you chars dont need other than vendoring them?

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