GGG, DONT NERF MINIONS

Its not new, its a rework.

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magicdownunder wrote:

Its not new, its a rework.

it's not a rework.
It's a separate unique from the normal shroud.

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magicdownunder wrote:

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Jourdain wrote:

Minions are getting buffed bro lmfao...

The chest pc (it might be really expensive though depending on the drop rate)? Yeah, that is going to buff the pure skeletons, spiders and helm based builds. It might justify a nerf all on its own.

Spectres will not profit from this chest as you will lose the +1 spectres mod in the chest and generally speaking summoner will not wear this chest because -6 links is nearly impossible as summoner has to deal with golem, guardian, offering, aura, curse, minions...
Many builds will profit from this chest: dual wielding cospri's, bow man, 2h melee, wispering ice, pledge of hands (just to make an example).
This continue and unjustified attack to summoner is pathetic

I’m a bit confused here. Bex said no Ascendency rework, so why the outrage? There is most surely a Bone Offering nerf coming, and that 100% applies exclusively to Necromancer. The skill is nigh worthless for every other Ascendency in the game as minion builds typically don’t need to focus on the additional layer of defense. There is a reasonable chance Spectres will be nerfed for no other reason than it was very popular in Harvest, and popular builds are slated to receive nerfs. However, this will likely not target the gem itself (minion gems all seem to hit their relative max number at L25 and I do But they want to destroy the symmetry). Still, with a BO nerf, I doubt Spectre would be nearly as popular.

Edit: See how they destroyed Spirit Offering when that was abused by the player base. Flesh Offering will probably be the only offering worth anything in 3.12, and 3.13 will see that gone as well.

The meta summoner wouldn't use it but the other minions builds can like the few I listed. I mean the thread is called Don't Nerf Minions not don't nerf spectres...

Don't you worry exiles, you'll still beat the entire game on a 10c budget. Necro has always been broken and will always be. It doesn't matter what nerfs are coming.

summoner will never die even 500% dps nerf on minions
u have to get max chaos resist and at least 5k+ hp
easy u cant kill boss like in 3mins but at least u can kill sirus without die

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angelobiancofaithpride wrote:

- commander of darkness is fine. if you nerf this, it will be more problematic to get minions resistances (only +25% are obtainable from passives, which makes it 65% total, its NOT ENOUGH and will force specialized ascendancy to look for that resistances on other things like crafting them on rings or finding abyss jewels etc, this is ridiculus for necromancer as a class)

Didn't check if anyone else made a comment about it, but you have 51% minion all res in tree, not 25%. Please try to know what you are talking about before making such claims, it's embarrassing.

And even if you were right, they could just make it so CoD only affect minions. Bim, nerfed, without a problem.

Even if necromancer did not get nerfed ... there is nothing interesting for minions in Heist patch. Skele Archers? It is not that exiting. Archmage gets a lot support next league. I think it was really weak overall in the past :)

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10c budget

Your mindset is the real problem. Comparing things just by virtual money.

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magicdownunder wrote:

Spectres will not profit from this chest as you will lose the +1 spectres mod in the chest and generally speaking summoner will not wear this chest because -6 links is nearly impossible as summoner has to deal with golem, guardian, offering, aura, curse, minions...
Many builds will profit from this chest: dual wielding cospri's, bow man, 2h melee, wispering ice, pledge of hands (just to make an example).
This continue and unjustified attack to summoner is pathetic

Going from 4 to 5 Spectres is only 25% more damage. On the other hand, just the Minion Damage Mod on Abyssal Jewel (x6) is 120% increased Damage, which is ~30% more damage. Now Add Attack/Cast Speed for a total of 30-36% and the body armor starts to look realy good.

The sockets are enough for RS Spectres if you use a Spectre Helmet.
Minion Instabillity builds will 100% want this body armor.
Classical SRS will use it aswell.