About gender locked classes
" see, i agree with this. i don't think there should be any gender options at all. not by MTX or otherwise. and doing it as just an MTX is more of an asshole move. its like, oh you want this that bad? "fuck you pay me." (movie quote) i completely agree that only one gender option is narrative. you can't change the gender of the main character in your favourite novel. you can't make harry potter a girl or whatever else, can you. path of exile has a giant story and while i and many others don't play the game for it, it was designed with it in mind. stick with the characters. but for GGG to basically say yeah we'll ignore all that just for a few bucks - eh. kinda undermines their initial argument doesn't it. at that point you might as well just do it universally. still though. i have no idea why anyone would care about such a thing. but people are different, with different thought processes and ways of looking at things etc. just cause i don't care about gender options doesn't mean someone legitimately does/can. but for things i care about and want to see changed i don't constantly demand about them, whine cry reddit rant etc. you can post one thread on feedback and suggestions and move on. let them develop the game |
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I mean, I'd like to think I haven't been whining or ranting? I saw a thread on a topic I care about and started trying to contribute to it.
But yes. I can see the logic behind the Design Decision. I don't necessarily agree with it, given the fact that the game is already a Playdough Protagonist type where nothing else about your character is fixed, but paying voice actors costs money. Not only do you need to record two sets of character dialogue, but every other NPC in the game needs to get a pass to see if they need new VO as well. Piety, for example, refers to the Witch as 'Sister' and has story beats they'd need to rework altogether if they made a Warlock alternative, and I can understand them not wanting to do that. I am a whole lot less understanding of them being willing to do that, but only if I grace them with more dollars. I have given them enough dollars. China is giving them plenty of dollars. They have enough dollars to work on three concurrent Path of Exile games. If they want to do this because it's a right nice thing to do for the players, I'm on board. If they don't want to do this because they don't think it's worth the hassle for this particular game, then fine. I've dealt with it for years now, I'll continue dealing with it. If they want to do it, then charge me full-price-game dollar amounts to gain access to it for one UND PRECISELY VUN character at a time? Well, they'll probably get their money because it's important to me. But I'll remember it when they start asking me for more money for less important shit, and they likely will get even less of it than they've gotten from me since the Tencent acquisition. |
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"The thing is though that most people will play the game regardless of gender options, so why should GGG waste the time and money to implement them? Some people don't care what their character looks like and only care about the gameplay, others might want their character to look awesome. The second group pays for mtx armor and effects to make it happen. I don't see why paying for a new gender option is that big a deal if it really means that much to you. |
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" nah i wasn't referring to you when i said people whining ranting etc. its more the people that are just constantly posting about it over and over, demanding it be a thing because "mah 2019" there are a few of them around. you're not one of em |
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I can appreciate the idea that "we don't want to offer gender customization because we see our characters as characters, with fixed genders tied to their stories". The seven distinct characters from Path of Exile 1 fit very well into the world around them, complete with specific NPC banter and interactions that make them unique. Our big-and-tough Karui marauder, noble blonde ranger, pantsless sage templar, sassy shadow, and even more sassy witch are all distinct personalities.
......And then there's Path of Exile 2, which introduces us to a big and tough Karui marauder, a short and blonde ranger, a black haired gothy witch, and what looks from the preview to be a handsome duelist, short shadow, lanky older gentleman, and elegant woman. Original characters, do not steal. That's where the idea of "characters as fixed characters" falls apart. I can accept that PoE1's ranger is a short blonde with a noble persona, especially with all the interactions she has with PoE1's NPCs. What rings false to me, though, is the idea that PoE2's ranger has to be another short blonde ranger unless I shell out MTX bucks to change that. It's a brand new campaign with brand new models, voice acting, and character development. There is no better time to add some character customization which harms no one and benefits many. |
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As much as I was hoping it would be a free feature of 4.0, and as much as I hate the idea of spending even more money on this game for a feature that will no doubt be $40+ each character, I'd rather have the option to pay for it than not have the option at all.
For me it is a "sticking point." I don't play male characters anymore, period. I don't have to, there are plenty of other games out there that do it right and if a game doesn't give me that option I don't play it. It's not a RP thing for me, it's the opposite, as a large straight guy I see most male characters as boring and uninteresting, and if I'm going to be watching a character for dozens of hours I want it to be as amazing looking as possible. I want to be able to zoom into my character and think, "that looks awesome" even if it's only something I do rarely, even if it's mostly a first person game. This is why MTX works in the first place, and it's about time GGG realized gender is a big part of the MTX equation. The vast majority of money I spent on Marvel Heroes for example was on gender swaps. I'm looking forward to trying out the assassin and duelist ascendancies for the first time. I don't have high hopes for marauder and templar. My fear with the marauder is they will do what Blizzard did with the female barbarian in D3. Who knows with the templar. |
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People complaining about the mtx thing consider they have to hire a VA for that, have the current VA behave with the new addition, create a new model, create new ascendancy arts for the new model and maybe even new animations if the new model dont share the physique as the opposite sex counterpart
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" And roleplaying as an old dude with no pants is somehow no problem then? |
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"This is...not a good analogy. You can't choose what Harry Potter wears, or whether he joins up with other people that day, or what his name is, or which spells he's good at casting, etc etc, but you can do all these things in Path of Exile. Games aren't novels; choice is normal here. None of the story of POE requires the protagonist to be a particular gender, else it already wouldn't work because there are already men and women characters available. Allowing a female Templar etc wouldn't cause any narrative problems at all. Last edited by GusTheCrocodile#5954 on Nov 22, 2019, 2:37:32 AM
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U know dat something as simple sounding as gender switch for classes in fact means double as much armor models and animations? Do they have time for this?
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