Chaos to alt ratio ripoff

Who cares

1. The person accepting his offer obviously would rather have the chaos then waste all the time with trading, vendoring, then trading again.

2. All that back and fourth for 4 alts? You can get more alts than that in less time by doing a 1/2 of a run in an area and selling all the magic rare items for scraps, thus these people are actually be less efficient.

All that work for 4 alts is hardly a 'rip off' and some people would rather not deal with all that hassle and get the orb they want in 1 quick trade.

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ampdecay wrote:

Its only a rip off if the person doesn't know they're being charged a convenience fee.

This. End of discussion.

Did you know there is people who will do quests for you for a charge, and they get business all day long

RIP OFF?! They could do it themselves for free!

STORM THE FORUMS!



... or some people don't mind a small 'fee' for convenience sake. The same reason that convenience stores charge more for a product a customer could get for less at the grocery store.

So these people taking part is the 'rip off' are merely saving themselves all the time and hassle involved in all that vendoring and trading and getting an orb they would rather have instantly.

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whoismiked wrote:

... or some people don't mind a small 'fee' for convenience sake.

Or, in most cases, they're new people who don't know any better.

No matter which way you slice it, this is only justifiable from an honesty standpoint if both parties actually understand what the trade involves.

Granted, it's an online game and this sort of thing is allowed. At the end of the day, they have just as much right to try and trade 1 for 20 as we have to come on the forums and post about it or call them out in trade chat.

We're not against the idea of these trades; we're against the idea of it involving dishonesty or omission.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

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ampdecay wrote:

Also fusing are 1:1 with alchemy even though that's not what they cost at the vendor so this whole argument is kinda moot if you ask me.

Have you ever tried trading alchs for fusings? It doesn't work too well.

No because 1:1 is ridiculous, no way is a fusing worth 1 alc to me, I'd go with maybe 1:8 and I'd trade them

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Sneakypaw wrote:

Since you are not going to trade chat with the intention to offer 20 alts for 1 chaos It's more likely that they sit in chat and offer 1 chaos for 20 alts. Hence you don't really have to look for them. You see the offer and take them up on it.

How fast you can sell your 2 Fusings is debateable. All I am saying is: Someone takes the time to sell the stuff to the vendor and then goes and trades it to some guy for 1 chaos.

If he wants 4 alts more than the Chaos might be worth then let him do it. I see no ripping off here.

You see no rip off in neglecting to mention to the buyer, that they are getting less of something than they would otherwise get normally?
Is this world totally full of douche bags?

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Synidaeum wrote:

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whoismiked wrote:

... or some people don't mind a small 'fee' for convenience sake.

Or, in most cases, they're new people who don't know any better.

No matter which way you slice it, this is only justifiable from an honesty standpoint if both parties actually understand what the trade involves.

To clarify, I agree with that. If the buyer knows he's paying a "convenience fee", then sure. Other wise, it's a scam. Taking advantage of someone not knowing better is a scam. Plain and simple.

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ampdecay wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

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ampdecay wrote:

Also fusing are 1:1 with alchemy even though that's not what they cost at the vendor so this whole argument is kinda moot if you ask me.

Have you ever tried trading alchs for fusings? It doesn't work too well.

No because 1:1 is ridiculous, no way is a fusing worth 1 alc to me, I'd go with maybe 1:8 and I'd trade them

+1 to that. Fusings are my most coveted orbs.......

This thread is almost as carebear as the loot timer thread.

Free bump, since i'm not a fan of this methode either.

Saying 8 Alts = a Fusing = 1 Alch = 0.5 Chaos may well be true according to POEEX but up until a few days ago we had a retarded vendor system & changing 500 Alts into Fusings THEN selling them for Chaos was a complete pain in the ass. 20:1 seemed like a good deal at the time and I sold many at that price with no regrets. I sold to one guy who was using them to craft a 6l & he was always thirsty for more.

Now that the vendor system is a bit less archaic maybe I will be less inclined to do the 1:20 ratio but in the same breath I would also say to folks that even if it's not what POEEX says is right as long as you are happy with the deal that is all that matters. For the most part I think that site does more harm than good, might as well bring back gold if everyone is gonna be so rigid to that.