Nerfing XP grinding again 95-100?

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Snorkle_uk wrote:
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imLuCaSsS wrote:

Come on dude, 95% of PoE players never reach level 100.


then the change doesnt effect them.

First lvl100 took 4 months, thats what? 17 weeks? Now what does it take those same guys? 1 week? This change means its going to take maybe 1 week + 3 days? Pretty trivial in the bigger picture of how crazy leveling speeds are getting, esp on the eve of them boosting the hell out of packsize.

It constantly gets easier and easier and easier to reach lvl100, to the point where now its meaningless. You used to see lvl100 chars and its like damn, that guys put in some work. Now it means they probably just shield charged down a shaped strand or whatever it is in the current meta for 10 days, it means nothing. Getting lvl100 now means the same thing getting to lvl90 used to mean.

Sure, of course, it is so easy to reach level 100 that there is 23 players level 100 on SSF HC Harbinguer league in 5 months of league. 5 months!!! 150 days!

You're totally right. No real challenge on 100 here in this game. Maybe they should nerf it even more!

Do you work on GGG Balance team too? :D

23 challenges in Harbinguer league and highest character on HC level 85, you looks like a real developer that actually don't play this game. You can ask GGG a job already.
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Last edited by imLuCaSsS on Dec 4, 2017, 10:27:03 PM
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Snorkle_uk wrote:
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imLuCaSsS wrote:
You can't balance a 100k players game around 3 streamers. Wtf is wrong with GGG's developers?

I know steelmage got 2 level 100 in mayhem race in 10 days. But who cares? This is one no lifer player. Why other 99,9999% players need to pay the xp nerf as well?

The only thing that happens here is: Steelmage will still get 100 in few days, difference is he'll be no-stop farming for 70h instead of 40h.

All other 99,999 players of poe will never reach 100.

End of history. Balanced? ok ok .... geniuses



I think the mistake ur making is presuming the other 99,999 players were supposed to get to lvl100.

I think the others 99,999 players should have a chance to get a 100 if they really want it, even being casual and grinding the whole league ( 3 months ) to do it.

What you're not understanding, maybe cause u never got a 100 character, is: the way it is now is designed really for only few streamers to do the lvl 100 job. They removed the level 100 character chance from 99,999 players. Simple like that.

One day, when you start to grind from 98 to 99 and from 99 to 100 you'll understand what I'm talking about. If you never done it before and never will, then this thread isn't for you. You'll never understand what I'm saying here.
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All I ever do is delay,
My every attempt to evade,
The end of the road
And my end....
Last edited by imLuCaSsS on Dec 4, 2017, 10:36:04 PM
It only takes max 200 hours to hit 100 even if you are slow as fuck. Pretty sure all of you played more then 200 hours on this game meaning all of you should have at least one level 100 character. If you actually go for 100 its too fucking easy. This is a great nerf but would have like to see sextant's and poorjoy's nerfed instead.
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imLuCaSsS wrote:

Sure, of course, it is so easy to reach level 100 that there is 23 players level 100 on SSF HC Harbinguer league in 5 months of league. 5 months!!! 150 days!


and the design goal of lvl100 was that it would take a player about 1 year to reach it. So ya, ssf hardcore that hardly anyone plays and theres 23 lvl100 players. How many people actually tried to reach it in that league, didnt die but couldnt make it happen because of the amount of time it takes?

That you had to reach for hardcore ssf to try and make the point says it all. You think the game is balanced around hardcore ssf?

You talk as if people are supposed to be hitting lvl100. Its supposed to be impossible for almost everyone, so the only people who matter in terms of how quickly it can be achieved are the ladder racers who no life the game.
The problem is that before you could achieve 100 with a "resonable" amount of hours, playing solo without doing beacheads rotations all day. It would take a shitload of time, but somewhat possible. Now they are nerfing the exp based on the top 0,1% of the players who play all day every single day in groups and doing the same shit map layout over and over because it's the best one for xp. Just as OP said, only 23 people got 100 in ssf hc, that means they are balacing the gameplay of their entire player base for 0,1% of playerss. I would agree that change in mayhem/tumoril races but in normal leagues? Simply bullshit.
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Last edited by IIPheXII on Dec 4, 2017, 10:44:04 PM
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imLuCaSsS wrote:
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Snorkle_uk wrote:
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imLuCaSsS wrote:
You can't balance a 100k players game around 3 streamers. Wtf is wrong with GGG's developers?

I know steelmage got 2 level 100 in mayhem race in 10 days. But who cares? This is one no lifer player. Why other 99,9999% players need to pay the xp nerf as well?

The only thing that happens here is: Steelmage will still get 100 in few days, difference is he'll be no-stop farming for 70h instead of 40h.

All other 99,999 players of poe will never reach 100.

End of history. Balanced? ok ok .... geniuses



I think the mistake ur making is presuming the other 99,999 players were supposed to get to lvl100.

I think the others 99,999 players should have a chance to get a 100 if they really want it, even being casual and grinding the whole league ( 3 months ) to do it.

What you're not understanding, maybe cause u never got a 100 character, is: the way it is now is designed really for only few streamers to do the lvl 100 job. They removed the level 100 character chance from 99,999 players. Simple like that.

One day, when you start to grind from 98 to 99 and from 99 to 100 you'll understand what I'm talking about. If you never done it before and never will, then this thread isn't for you. You'll never understand what I'm saying here.


I think I understand just fine mate, Im not sure you understand what they intend level 100s place in the game to be though.
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imLuCaSsS wrote:
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But seriously, why is the 95-100 grind so damn meaningful to people?

Because after 2 weeks of league I'm 90+ with 36/40 challenges done. Grinding to 100 is the last challenge before leave league, and it was, til 2.6, a lot fun. Not anymore.

3.0 = empty maps, I didn't went for 100 in desert maps without mobs.
3.1 = XP nerfed from 95-100 AGAIN ( we already had a nerf like this in the past ) and everybody in this world ( Not GGG developers of course, because they actually dont play this game ) know how painful it already was to run and rerun maps 10h in a row for few ammount of xp, now it is even more broken.

Grinding level 100 would be something hard but fun, a real challenge. It was in 2.6, not anymore.

Developers set up the level 100 to 5 streamers and forgot all other 100k players that poe have. This is kinda stupid.

Well, I'm not going for 100 never again. And this isn't good or fun to me. It was part of my goals in leagues. Thank u ggg


100 is the last challenge before league end? Forgive me, but incrementing the number from 95 to 96 and so on has always seemed like a silly end or "reward" to all that extra playtime and investment. It's like getting first place in a marathon in order to get a slightly-larger-than-average sandwich at the end.

Seems to me like the journey itself is more important and interesting than the goal, so why not focus on the journey instead? Have some fun screwing around with different builds or rolling crazy maps. Craft that perfect mirror-worthy item. Play that one skill or use that one unique that you've always wanted to try but were hesitant on.
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IIPheXII wrote:
The problem is that before you could achieve 100 with a "resonable" amount of hours, playing solo without doing beacheads rotations all day.



what, back when it used it take 10x longer to hit lvl100 than it does now? Which before are we talking about exactly? Just before they nerfed it right now or before that when they then buffed it over and over and over and over and over again until their entire design for leveling became completely fucked?
reaching level 100 should not be possible in 1 or 2 weeks. Even for the casual player thats possible at the moment.
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Anubis2108 wrote:
reaching level 100 should not be possible in 1 or 2 weeks. Even for the casual player thats possible at the moment.


What the fuck? LOL Is this foo serious right now?
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