PoE races are not ethical

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Goredeath wrote:

If you want to make it truly competive then you need put timers how much people are logged inside game and put that into equation.

I honestly can't tell if you are trolling or not. What does this have to do with literally anything in any aspect of life in literally any way feasibly possible? Do you live in the real world or in a bubble?

So I "deserve" to be a pro baseball player because I stood on a baseball field for 10 hours a day for 10 years straight and chewed on sunflower seeds? Just because time was "spent" doesn't mean it was spent productively in context.

Nothing in life works this way. Skills aren't given to you naturally, that is called talent. You work to develop your skills and path in life. Racing in PoE isn't even really a skill beyond learning the basics, it is more about discipline and your access to the only resource that no one can get enough of in life, time.

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Arrowneous wrote:

By GGG not factoring in the hours played as part of the rankings in racing then it's he who is a top racer AND can play the most hours (or tag team with a friend) that has a very unfair advantage. There has to be a base minimum hours played to get ranked but beyond that efficiency of play should be a higher factor in determining who's in 1st place than just xp because he/she has played more hours. GGG is also doing a dis-service to all racers by rewarding endangering one's health (possibly fatally) by only ranking by xp alone.

You can't make this stuff up guys. You literally contradicted yourself in one paragraph. XP IS EFFICIENCY IN A RACE. There is no difference. You win the race by hitting the FIRST TO 100 (or having the MOST XP). Not by having the highest XP/HR. So by your logic I can win a race by leeching a 76 Untainted Paradise from 820 at level 60 after I died 121 time Zerging Kitava but since I clocked 440M XP/HR im the "best"?

Pass the weed bro.

How long before someone compares GGG to Nazi Germany?

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Shagsbeard wrote:

How long before someone compares GGG to Nazi Germany?

The longer the conversation goes, the higher the probability it will occur.

Godwins Law

The issue is there are two very different groups of people. One side sees video game addiction as an actual serious thing and the other side laughs at the idea. Me, I've seen how different someone can become when they play too many video games and for children it's dangerous(can be for adults as well).

The problem is you can't argue with someone who says "oh come on, it's just a game. It's not as if they're literally selling their body for drugs!"

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鬼殺し wrote:

Saying 'you can handle 20 days of reduced sleep, I handled 3 months!' is the same fucking thing. You can handle 3 months of reduced sleep for your addiction? Good for you! That doesn't in any way mean that 20 days of reduced sleep is healthy or okay. It might be, but not for that reason.

It's OK enough for GGG to not babysit us by telling us what we should do with our free time.

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鬼殺し wrote:

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Nubatron wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

How long before someone compares GGG to Nazi Germany?

The longer the conversation goes, the higher the probability it will occur.

Godwins Law

Was it really necessary to state the obvious here?

And Shags is just being his usual snarky self. We're nowhere near Godwin's Law being a threat. I'm the only one doing analogies and I've no interest in going there. Not when we have a perfectly juicy addiction angle in play.

Yes, absolutely necessary.

(Snark and sarcasm don't carry well over the internet, so which was that?) :P

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DexterousGecko wrote:

The issue is there are two very different groups of people. One side sees video game addiction as an actual serious thing and the other side laughs at the idea. Me, I've seen how different someone can become when they play too many video games and for children it's dangerous(can be for adults as well).

The problem is you can't argue with someone who says "oh come on, it's just a game. It's not as if they're literally selling their body for drugs!"

Well I mean are they REALLY comparable man? I don't think gaming can/has been confirmed to be physically addicting. If I am wrong please correct me...

You're not throwing up and dopesick from not playing your video games or selling your body on the corner to buy PoE MTX. You're just mentally weak and need guidance. Not really trying to downplay addiction but it is really the truth..

The problem is you can extrapolate this "issue" however far out you wish and still make "arguments" (albeit absolutely ridiculous).

- Is McDonald's unethical because my 400 pound neighbor can't stop stuffing the Big Macs they sell down his throat?

- Should my cable company limit my time to 4 hours day because I sit on my ass all day and watch TV?

- Should the bank only let me take out $1000 day because I may spend that money poorly?

Gaming (not gambling) isn't innately addictive. Heroin on the other hand is. They are not truly comparable imo.

People, people, the internet has you all fucked up. Isn't it obvious?

Both sides are right.

Gaming can be addictive in the literal, your-brain-chemistry-has-changed-over-time-due-to-the-dopamine-hits-you-get-when-chasing-carrots way. It's a real thing.

A gaming addiction is not similar to an opiate, alcohol or speed addiction in terms of physiological dependency or immediate negative effects on health.

A gaming addiction can, however, be bad for your health due to a variety of factors including prolonged exhaustion, prolonged sedentary periods, etc. It can result in death, ultimately.

It's a lot easier and faster to die due to complications from a serious drug or alcohol addiction.

etc. etc.

You all win! Yay! Nexttttttttt

OK, OK . . .


Gaming addiction isn't a thing. It's not bad for you.


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Go!

As I mentioned earlier: ethics is overwhelmingly dependent on intention.

Is the intent of GGG action to cause the detrimental results the OP claims?