Feedback and Suggestions (Path of Exile 1) - An alternative for ascendency points. - Forum

" Zaludoz wrote: Providing an alternative non-labyrinth method is not going to make the labyrinth fall into disuse as some may fear. There is no losing face here. I'd respect the dev team more, if they provide more users with a more fun alternative, understanding that they went a little off course thinking everyone would put up with the labyrinth like they have with everything else they dislike about the game. GGG does not want, nor should they have to make an alternative for anything and everything that is seen as an "issue" by members of the community. You want a massive power spike in terms of power, you need to earn it, its actually one of the only pieces of content in the game that can't just be safely rewarded, although I will admit that paying for a carry in the lab does make things much easier, but that same carry potential is available outside the lab as well. I would lose respect for the dev team and GGG as a company if they caved on this issue, because the content is well designed, despite probably being too much power to the player (thats another topic) But then we have people like you that will complain about the lab without ever even doing the uber lab, hell its entirely possibly you haven't even done the merc lab. Where is the validity of the feedback when you can't even muster enough energy to do the challenge? The sad part is you aren't even alone in post about the lab without being fully informed or experience, there are many people like you that see slightly different content and you just nope the hell out of it. However, it doesn't surprise me or likely anyone that likely a large amount of people that complain about the lab haven't done merc or uber lab and aren't experienced enough to give valid informed feedback. This much is clear to me and it should be clear to GGG and anyone else that thinks 700 or so people even is significant, especially when you consider the fact that you can count the number of people posting about he lab with little to no experience in doing it. https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285 FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.	Posted by goetzjam#3084 on Apr 4, 2017, 10:40:30 AM Quote this Post
" goetzjam wrote: " Mr_Cee wrote: things can go very worse if it happens to need 'a bit' too long... That information comes with experience or you know look at the videos if you feel like its that big of a deal, god forbid there be anything complex or challenging to do in this game. ...while the personal experience within the lab is a 'painful' all-or-nothing process that follows a rule that is completely 'different' as what can be expected from the game's genre - even for HC. And it doesnt have not much to do with complexity at all (at least to me), but all for this very atypic "gameplay" that is demanded by the traps, and even more puzzles (while these seem mostly skip/avoidable) "Looking on videos" may give you an insight on what to expect, but doesnt really help for how your own run(s) will happen in detail. Most ("good") videos doesnt even touch what can be wrong at all... invited by timer @ 10.12.2011 -- deutsche Community: www.exiled.eu & ts.exiled.eu	Posted by Mr_Cee#0334 on Apr 4, 2017, 10:50:19 AM Quote this Post
" Hyskoa wrote: When a part of the game is depressingly shit to play, I'd like to share that annoyance with the rest of the community to even it out a bit, fair is fair. I feel bad, now everybody feels bad/annoyed. if that matters - i feel actually BETTER after reading your OP. " But forcing EVERY... SINGLE.... F*****.... BUILD to go through that brown stain of a user experience FOUR TIMES is asking too much. Some builds just aren't made for it and should be given an alternative approach that's more in tune with an arpg. or maybe some builds are just too crap to ascend? you know - survival of the fittest (players or builds). what should happen - but GGG wont do that due to obvious reasons - is to make end-game so challenging that uber lab is a simple test of build/player worthiness. with a clear message - you cannot beat uber lab? do not even enter red maps but the game is so dumbed down that you can faceroll red maps with 4k hp, godzillion DPS and no risk. power creep made bad players 'entitled' to do endgame content. very simple though process: 'i should be given uber-lab points for free because im doing lvl80+ content, just look at me effortlessly clearing entire screens with my copypasta meta build!' it is the other way around - sadly GGG failed hard at managing power creep and bad players who never should be allowed into red maps are shaping the poe's future every damn build i made managed to uber-ascend (if i tried, some builds were abandoned duds). if i can do it - you can do it.	Posted by sidtherat#1310 on Apr 4, 2017, 10:52:59 AM Quote this Post
" Hyskoa wrote: It would be much preferably if there were another option for attaining ascendency points in path of exile. for example: - slamming my head into a brick wall for half an hour or - visiting Afghanistan to teach Islamic State about the merits of Christianity. Either of these options are more appealing than running labyrinth one more time. And much less painful. I'm more than willing to offer more alternatives of course. Here's a few more: - [Removed by Support] - offer up my nether regions as a stage to host the next rendition of river dance in pinned heels. - travel back in time to the beginning of the universe and insert the condensed energy of existence rectally. All these are viable options and a lot more enjoyable than labyrinth currently is. Okay let's do that. Make a video where you slam your head into a brick wall for half an hour and [Removed by Support], I will run the lab for you. Do it again for each difficulty. Thanks for choosing LabRunHeadSlammerService™. Last edited by Patrick_GGG#0000 on Apr 4, 2017, 1:15:28 PM	Posted by SuperMotte#2631 on Apr 4, 2017, 11:06:46 AM Quote this Post
" SuperMotte wrote: Okay let's do that. Make a video where you slam your head into a brick wall for half an hour and [Removed by Support], I will run the lab for you. Do it again for each difficulty. Thanks for choosing LabRunHeadSlammerService™. You're offering account boosting and sharing that goes against the TOS? Brave man. Vote +1 to change Path of Exile to Path of Nerfs. We hate to say, but ProjectPT was right. Last edited by Patrick_GGG#0000 on Apr 4, 2017, 1:16:03 PM	Posted by Hyskoa#4601 on Apr 4, 2017, 1:00:14 PM Quote this Post
" Hyskoa wrote: " SuperMotte wrote: Okay let's do that. Make a video where you slam your head into a brick wall for half an hour and [Removed by Support], I will run the lab for you. Do it again for each difficulty. Thanks for choosing LabRunHeadSlammerService™. You're offering account boosting and sharing that goes against the TOS? Brave man. Slam your head against a brick wall first for half an hour. Brave boy. Last edited by Patrick_GGG#0000 on Apr 4, 2017, 1:16:30 PM	Posted by SuperMotte#2631 on Apr 4, 2017, 1:05:49 PM Quote this Post
" sidtherat wrote: " Hyskoa wrote: When a part of the game is depressingly shit to play, I'd like to share that annoyance with the rest of the community to even it out a bit, fair is fair. I feel bad, now everybody feels bad/annoyed. if that matters - i feel actually BETTER after reading your OP. I too felt better. I found the OP entertaining and funny. Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!	Posted by Turtledove#4014 on Apr 4, 2017, 1:24:12 PM Quote this Post
" goetzjam wrote: " Zaludoz wrote: Providing an alternative non-labyrinth method is not going to make the labyrinth fall into disuse as some may fear. There is no losing face here. I'd respect the dev team more, if they provide more users with a more fun alternative, understanding that they went a little off course thinking everyone would put up with the labyrinth like they have with everything else they dislike about the game. GGG does not want, nor should they have to make an alternative for anything and everything that is seen as an "issue" by members of the community. You want a massive power spike in terms of power, you need to earn it, its actually one of the only pieces of content in the game that can't just be safely rewarded, although I will admit that paying for a carry in the lab does make things much easier, but that same carry potential is available outside the lab as well. I would lose respect for the dev team and GGG as a company if they caved on this issue, because the content is well designed, despite probably being too much power to the player (thats another topic) But then we have people like you that will complain about the lab without ever even doing the uber lab, hell its entirely possibly you haven't even done the merc lab. Where is the validity of the feedback when you can't even muster enough energy to do the challenge? The sad part is you aren't even alone in post about the lab without being fully informed or experience, there are many people like you that see slightly different content and you just nope the hell out of it. However, it doesn't surprise me or likely anyone that likely a large amount of people that complain about the lab haven't done merc or uber lab and aren't experienced enough to give valid informed feedback. This much is clear to me and it should be clear to GGG and anyone else that thinks 700 or so people even is significant, especially when you consider the fact that you can count the number of people posting about he lab with little to no experience in doing it. Who cares if you lose respect for GGG? Certainly not them. You're no more important than anyone else. Get over yourself and buy some supporter tags	Posted by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017, 4:57:13 PM
Lab and ascendancy do not need any change, it's perfect how it's working right now. One of the best thing added to the game. Well thought and well made.	Posted by diablofdb#3816 on Apr 4, 2017, 5:04:49 PM Quote this Post
I know he has a bunch. He needs more.	Posted by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017, 7:23:53 PM