[2.6] IMMORTAL MF GOLEMS - Shaper / Uber / ALL Guardians *WHILE DEAD*

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tomay wrote:
No, base life and damage are much higher at lvl 21

20: 6776 / 619–1547
21: 7466 / 684–1710


Got it. Crap already tried 3 gems. I think I should ready 6 gems now lol btw what gems do I prioritize after Flame Golem?

Edit: I guess minion damage
Last edited by Gelmeister#1550 on May 14, 2017, 8:34:24 AM
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Gelmeister wrote:
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tomay wrote:
No, base life and damage are much higher at lvl 21

20: 6776 / 619–1547
21: 7466 / 684–1710


Got it. Crap already tried 3 gems. I think I should ready 6 gems now lol btw what gems do I prioritize after Flame Golem?

Edit: I guess minion damage

I would not try to upgrade others. The difference would not be noticable. Just flame golem is enough.
Even if you wanted to upgrade your support gems they would not profit u in the long run.
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Oh and i mean do not try too hard 21 /20 on supports. But 20/20 upgrade is a must have.
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
Last edited by MrsDeath_#3960 on May 14, 2017, 9:05:13 AM
Yeah, that's 15% increased damage... and then GMP/LMP, 10% increased cast speed is nice. All other gems yield 10% increased damage.
I played around with a 5link setup, sacrificing Fire Penetration and it was a lot of fun. Normal Atziri, ridiculous things like Double Beyond Breach Pit final fight being just stomped by the golems while I took a dirt nap cheering them on.

I've deciding I'm going to liquidate my 55 EX Low Life RF Guardian since i"m just not enjoying him as much as I thought I would and invest into the Golem build for the rest of the league.


How would you best suggest investing into this build? Would I go for the 6 link and add in Fire pen? Should I try the Empower level 4 route?

I'm leaning more towards less of a 'quantity' farmer and more of a Rarity farmer with a focus on boss kills. With that in mind, do you have any suggestions for replacing Sadimas/Goldwyrm, or would you still keep them? Bisco's I'll still use while clearing of course, but I've been swapping it out for a high rarity amulet on Bosses.

Edit: Thinking Death's Door for the bleed immunity. Unsure. Thinking Skin of the Loyal and forking out for a 21/20 Flame golem, so that if I do go Empower, I can run like level 25 Flame golems. Problem is, if I run Skin, I'm going to need high ES Helm/Gloves/Boots. Maybe I can get away with Death's door if I find a nice 250+ Gloves and reuse my 20 Ex 500 ES helm that's on my Guardian.

If anyone wants to weigh in on this and offer suggestions, I would love to hear it. Maybe you've thought about really investing into this build but haven't had the currency. What would you do if you did?
Last edited by RinsBiggestFan#1367 on May 14, 2017, 8:59:41 PM
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NavarreElder wrote:
I played around with a 5link setup, sacrificing Fire Penetration and it was a lot of fun. Normal Atziri, ridiculous things like Double Beyond Breach Pit final fight being just stomped by the golems while I took a dirt nap cheering them on.

I've deciding I'm going to liquidate my 55 EX Low Life RF Guardian since i"m just not enjoying him as much as I thought I would and invest into the Golem build for the rest of the league.


How would you best suggest investing into this build? Would I go for the 6 link and add in Fire pen? Should I try the Empower level 4 route?

I'm leaning more towards less of a 'quantity' farmer and more of a Rarity farmer with a focus on boss kills. With that in mind, do you have any suggestions for replacing Sadimas/Goldwyrm, or would you still keep them? Bisco's I'll still use while clearing of course, but I've been swapping it out for a high rarity amulet on Bosses.

Edit: Thinking Death's Door for the bleed immunity. Unsure. Thinking Skin of the Loyal and forking out for a 21/20 Flame golem, so that if I do go Empower, I can run like level 25 Flame golems. Problem is, if I run Skin, I'm going to need high ES Helm/Gloves/Boots. Maybe I can get away with Death's door if I find a nice 250+ Gloves and reuse my 20 Ex 500 ES helm that's on my Guardian.

If anyone wants to weigh in on this and offer suggestions, I would love to hear it. Maybe you've thought about really investing into this build but haven't had the currency. What would you do if you did?


Flame golem + spell echo + minion damage + controlled destruction + GMP + empower rank 4 (if u are rich) or flame penetration
I think bisco's is enough for IIQ/IIR, goldwyrm and sadima offer too little ES
death door... ehh abit pricey but why not if you can afford (would rather run a bleed flask)
to be honest, jewels and double clayshapers are all the offence you need
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NavarreElder wrote:
I played around with a 5link setup, sacrificing Fire Penetration and it was a lot of fun. Normal Atziri, ridiculous things like Double Beyond Breach Pit final fight being just stomped by the golems while I took a dirt nap cheering them on.

I've deciding I'm going to liquidate my 55 EX Low Life RF Guardian since i"m just not enjoying him as much as I thought I would and invest into the Golem build for the rest of the league.


How would you best suggest investing into this build? Would I go for the 6 link and add in Fire pen? Should I try the Empower level 4 route?

I'm leaning more towards less of a 'quantity' farmer and more of a Rarity farmer with a focus on boss kills. With that in mind, do you have any suggestions for replacing Sadimas/Goldwyrm, or would you still keep them? Bisco's I'll still use while clearing of course, but I've been swapping it out for a high rarity amulet on Bosses.

Edit: Thinking Death's Door for the bleed immunity. Unsure. Thinking Skin of the Loyal and forking out for a 21/20 Flame golem, so that if I do go Empower, I can run like level 25 Flame golems. Problem is, if I run Skin, I'm going to need high ES Helm/Gloves/Boots. Maybe I can get away with Death's door if I find a nice 250+ Gloves and reuse my 20 Ex 500 ES helm that's on my Guardian.

If anyone wants to weigh in on this and offer suggestions, I would love to hear it. Maybe you've thought about really investing into this build but haven't had the currency. What would you do if you did?



I am playing a CI regen tank golementalist that can do all content deathless ( also using death's door for bleed immunity!). Sitting at 16k es and 2.2k es passive regen.


You can have a look at my character TheWrathfulOne

here is a video of a deathless uber atziri run

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPDldtHLwZA

and a chimera fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfjNvzwAEYY

In this video I swapped out GMP for elemental focus so clear speed suffered but boss killing speed increased by quite a bit since flame wave is the skill used more often against bosses in melee range. I am using a dual curse setup with gloves corrupted for elemental weakness .


Not sure how the build will fare if you put a MF lean to it though :p . The survivability will probably be gimped but it should just be a simple matter of swapping some gear in and out. Just thought to share it since you mention you are moving some gear over from your lowlife RF guardian and the gear and setup could be similar.


ps. I have since then obtained a +1 gem 765 es 102 res regalia which I swap in for bosses so I can stick to using my 973 es regalia colored for gmp for map clearing




http://i62.tinypic.com/2w7lhk5.jpg
Last edited by TheVengefulOne#7693 on May 15, 2017, 10:50:00 AM
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TheVengefulOne wrote:
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NavarreElder wrote:
I played around with a 5link setup, sacrificing Fire Penetration and it was a lot of fun. Normal Atziri, ridiculous things like Double Beyond Breach Pit final fight being just stomped by the golems while I took a dirt nap cheering them on.

I've deciding I'm going to liquidate my 55 EX Low Life RF Guardian since i"m just not enjoying him as much as I thought I would and invest into the Golem build for the rest of the league.


How would you best suggest investing into this build? Would I go for the 6 link and add in Fire pen? Should I try the Empower level 4 route?

I'm leaning more towards less of a 'quantity' farmer and more of a Rarity farmer with a focus on boss kills. With that in mind, do you have any suggestions for replacing Sadimas/Goldwyrm, or would you still keep them? Bisco's I'll still use while clearing of course, but I've been swapping it out for a high rarity amulet on Bosses.

Edit: Thinking Death's Door for the bleed immunity. Unsure. Thinking Skin of the Loyal and forking out for a 21/20 Flame golem, so that if I do go Empower, I can run like level 25 Flame golems. Problem is, if I run Skin, I'm going to need high ES Helm/Gloves/Boots. Maybe I can get away with Death's door if I find a nice 250+ Gloves and reuse my 20 Ex 500 ES helm that's on my Guardian.

If anyone wants to weigh in on this and offer suggestions, I would love to hear it. Maybe you've thought about really investing into this build but haven't had the currency. What would you do if you did?



I am playing a CI regen tank golementalist that can do all content deathless ( also using death's door for bleed immunity!). Sitting at 16k es and 2.2k es passive regen.


You can have a look at my character TheWrathfulOne

here is a video of a deathless uber atziri run

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPDldtHLwZA

and a chimera fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfjNvzwAEYY

In this video I swapped out GMP for elemental focus so clear speed suffered but boss killing speed increased by quite a bit since flame wave is the skill used more often against bosses in melee range. I am using a dual curse setup with gloves corrupted for elemental weakness .


Not sure how the build will fare if you put a MF lean to it though :p . The survivability will probably be gimped but it should just be a simple matter of swapping some gear in and out. Just thought to share it since you mention you are moving some gear over from your lowlife RF guardian and the gear and setup could be similar.


ps. I have since then obtained a +1 gem 765 es 102 res regalia which I swap in for bosses so I can stick to using my 973 es regalia colored for gmp for map clearing





Extremely interesting. I never knew there were golem builds that were tanky like yours. I'll have to consider it, because I became quite addicted to seeing so many Uniques drop with the increased rarity I was running. Thank you for providing me something to think about!
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NavarreElder wrote:
I played around with a 5link setup, sacrificing Fire Penetration and it was a lot of fun. Normal Atziri, ridiculous things like Double Beyond Breach Pit final fight being just stomped by the golems while I took a dirt nap cheering them on.

I've deciding I'm going to liquidate my 55 EX Low Life RF Guardian since i"m just not enjoying him as much as I thought I would and invest into the Golem build for the rest of the league.


How would you best suggest investing into this build? Would I go for the 6 link and add in Fire pen? Should I try the Empower level 4 route?

I'm leaning more towards less of a 'quantity' farmer and more of a Rarity farmer with a focus on boss kills. With that in mind, do you have any suggestions for replacing Sadimas/Goldwyrm, or would you still keep them? Bisco's I'll still use while clearing of course, but I've been swapping it out for a high rarity amulet on Bosses.

Edit: Thinking Death's Door for the bleed immunity. Unsure. Thinking Skin of the Loyal and forking out for a 21/20 Flame golem, so that if I do go Empower, I can run like level 25 Flame golems. Problem is, if I run Skin, I'm going to need high ES Helm/Gloves/Boots. Maybe I can get away with Death's door if I find a nice 250+ Gloves and reuse my 20 Ex 500 ES helm that's on my Guardian.

If anyone wants to weigh in on this and offer suggestions, I would love to hear it. Maybe you've thought about really investing into this build but haven't had the currency. What would you do if you did?

Heres somethings you can do;
Get vendor gambles and at least worth 1ex iiq 7+ iir 0+ tri res that enough to cap ress.
Get a shield , chayula amulet, death's door , es gloves for hard boss fights/ uber atziri. U can swap them in when u struggle like minotaur or trio fight. Search my previous posts for how to deal with those bosses.
I dont think empower is a must have but it would be nice with skin of the loyal otherwise fire pen is always better.
I could not check your links but enfeeble/ temp chains/blasphemy can make ur gameplay safer.
Do not give upon ur mf gear while mapping get a perandus belt and make mf items relic highest rolls as possible.
I'll give more info when iget home.
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
What golem setup do you use?

4 flame 1 ice 1 lightning


or

1 chaos 1 stone 1 lightn 1 ice 2 flame?
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sebbanan wrote:
What golem setup do you use?

4 flame 1 ice 1 lightning


or

1 chaos 1 stone 1 lightn 1 ice 2 flame?

5 Flame 1 Lightning is the best setup.

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