[2.6] IMMORTAL MF GOLEMS - Shaper / Uber / ALL Guardians *WHILE DEAD*

Hi all, this is my first build and I've been following this entire thread. I have a question:

1) Does Elemental Equilibrium stack? For example, doing Ice and Lightning damage - does that yield twice the -50% resistance to Fire?

2) What ascendancies were chosen after the build requirement, and does it affect Golems?
Shaper of Desolation - does that affect Golems or at least the Lightning ball?
Pendulum of Destruction - or even Mastermind of Discord - how do those affect this build?
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tomay wrote:
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MrsDeath_ wrote:
This game is not that easy there is only 3 bosses you need to learn how to play.


Oh I know that... just pointing out that sometimes just being dead isn't good enough. ;)

Otherwise, great build... Shaper is easy peasy with only 8 Harmonies and no penetration. A joke really.

Remind me again, why do we need curse effectiveness and EE when we're dead though?

(I know the mechanics and what curse effectiveness and Equilibrium does but what good does it do us, or our golems for that matter, when we're dead? )


Its for mapping and hard bosses. For example while you are clearing breaches you spread around your ball lightning - gmp . that gives alot of pen. and makes ur golems more efficient.
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
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Oneyedrunky wrote:
Is this the best Golem build out there?
Are there any changes to it if I don't plan on dying, ever?

Thanks


Yup its has best clear speed. And if you wanna survive i suggest you to look at my setup around page 18-20. Its simply putting heretic's veil and get enfeeble temp chains. That would make u play easier and safer.
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
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xantonin wrote:
Hi all, this is my first build and I've been following this entire thread. I have a question:

1) Does Elemental Equilibrium stack? For example, doing Ice and Lightning damage - does that yield twice the -50% resistance to Fire?

2) What ascendancies were chosen after the build requirement, and does it affect Golems?
Shaper of Desolation - does that affect Golems or at least the Lightning ball?
Pendulum of Destruction - or even Mastermind of Discord - how do those affect this build?


1) i tried and it does not stack just use ball lightning with gmp it will be more efficient.

2) you have to go mastermind of discord it gives pen to ur golems when you use any lightning spell so its good for us.
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
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MrsDeath_ wrote:
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xantonin wrote:
Hi all, this is my first build and I've been following this entire thread. I have a question:

1) Does Elemental Equilibrium stack? For example, doing Ice and Lightning damage - does that yield twice the -50% resistance to Fire?

2) What ascendancies were chosen after the build requirement, and does it affect Golems?
Shaper of Desolation - does that affect Golems or at least the Lightning ball?
Pendulum of Destruction - or even Mastermind of Discord - how do those affect this build?


1) i tried and it does not stack just use ball lightning with gmp it will be more efficient.

2) you have to go mastermind of discord it gives pen to ur golems when you use any lightning spell so its good for us.

wait, i thought we only needed two labs? mastermind of discord affects golems?
Please reply to your whispers for items... Even if you are mapping, in a rotation, in uber lab, or if its sold. Thank you. :D
would frost wall be a good idea? could use it to shield ourselves from danger
Please reply to your whispers for items... Even if you are mapping, in a rotation, in uber lab, or if its sold. Thank you. :D
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mattislouie wrote:
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MrsDeath_ wrote:
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xantonin wrote:
Hi all, this is my first build and I've been following this entire thread. I have a question:

1) Does Elemental Equilibrium stack? For example, doing Ice and Lightning damage - does that yield twice the -50% resistance to Fire?

2) What ascendancies were chosen after the build requirement, and does it affect Golems?
Shaper of Desolation - does that affect Golems or at least the Lightning ball?
Pendulum of Destruction - or even Mastermind of Discord - how do those affect this build?


1) i tried and it does not stack just use ball lightning with gmp it will be more efficient.

2) you have to go mastermind of discord it gives pen to ur golems when you use any lightning spell so its good for us.

wait, i thought we only needed two labs? mastermind of discord affects golems?


yup if u get other labs u ll get stronger eventually. they do effect golems.
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
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mattislouie wrote:
would frost wall be a good idea? could use it to shield ourselves from danger


well i dont think its a good idea there are better ways to deal with damage
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
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MrsDeath_ wrote:



hey guys this is my final gear on this build as magic find.
i do uber atziri-shaper services w/o any problem.
i ve been getting a lot of questions about my build i thought u needed some gem* links to be shown.
recently cleared atlas fully if you have any questions about boss fights my ign:LookAtMyGolemItsAmazing. dont hesitate to ask me while i am online.


While I read your comments in the last pages you mentioned your setup, I searched it.

I have a few questions about this.

First thing, why 5 Flames and 1 Lightning instead of 4 Flames and 1 Ice 1 lightning?

Let me explain my question further. Lets say we have 10 Primordial Harmony jewels stacked, each with 20%. so they buff our golems in the following way:

1x Flamegolem type = 200% increased Golemdamage
1x Ice Golem type = 200% increased Golemdamage
1x Lightning Golem type = 200% increased Golemdamage

Means we're sitting at 600% inc Golem Damage. With your setup its "only" 400% (according to out pre set calc)

Now, does one more flamegolem makes such a difference in clearspeed?
A further explanation here would be nice, I may have overseen this. :D

And why is Balllightning linked with added cold? Seems useless, since we only need BL to proc EE?


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eviL_Bison wrote:
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MrsDeath_ wrote:



hey guys this is my final gear on this build as magic find.
i do uber atziri-shaper services w/o any problem.
i ve been getting a lot of questions about my build i thought u needed some gem* links to be shown.
recently cleared atlas fully if you have any questions about boss fights my ign:LookAtMyGolemItsAmazing. dont hesitate to ask me while i am online.


While I read your comments in the last pages you mentioned your setup, I searched it.

I have a few questions about this.

First thing, why 5 Flames and 1 Lightning instead of 4 Flames and 1 Ice 1 lightning?

Let me explain my question further. Lets say we have 10 Primordial Harmony jewels stacked, each with 20%. so they buff our golems in the following way:

1x Flamegolem type = 200% increased Golemdamage
1x Ice Golem type = 200% increased Golemdamage
1x Lightning Golem type = 200% increased Golemdamage

Means we're sitting at 600% inc Golem Damage. With your setup its "only" 400% (according to out pre set calc)

Now, does one more flamegolem makes such a difference in clearspeed?
A further explanation here would be nice, I may have overseen this. :D

And why is Balllightning linked with added cold? Seems useless, since we only need BL to proc EE?



Hi, sry if i miss some of ur questions i am currently in a class.
First i tried 4 1 1 for quiet some time and i saw ice golem was dying pretty easliy and decided to give a try at 5 1 . then i learned its not about increased damage its about how many of ur golems dealing damage. Thats why 5 1 is ok and 6 flame is faster at clear speed. It comes down to how much cast speed - cooldown reduction ur golems has. That and lightning golem giving 100% buffs to u and ur fellow golem makes it reasonable to run. And ball lightning cold link was an experiment i tried something didnot work so dont worry about it. Just go with ball lighg- gmp. And use it when you want faster clear speed.
Hope my answers can clear ur questions. If you have more dont hesitate to ask. Have a nice day ;)
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
Last edited by MrsDeath_#3960 on Apr 19, 2017, 5:09:34 AM

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