[2.6] IMMORTAL MF GOLEMS - Shaper / Uber / ALL Guardians *WHILE DEAD*

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styyled wrote:
- Clears all content in the game, while your character is dead


Yeah? And how does work with Chimera? ^^

When you're dead they get as far as the smoke phase and then you can wait until cows come home. ;)
Last edited by tomay#5509 on Apr 18, 2017, 10:02:09 AM
What about Ascendancy's steps?

1. Liedge of the Primordial
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?

And how many Harmonies jewels needed to switch 6 fire golems to 4 fire + 1 cold + 1 lighting ???

Thanks for the great build!
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thevdende wrote:
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it already but there are some minor details which OP didn't mention, which I find quite important.

Wise Oak = pen works on your flame golems (check your golem offensive sheet and rpess wise oak the fire pen will increase).

Pendulum of destruction affects golems, which is great dps.

Shaper of desolation is amazing too, the pen counts for your flame golems once again, and using ball lighting triggers it! it's an extra 25% pen awesome!

this shit needs to be nerfed ^^


Could u confirm somehow your and some others theory or is this just something u belevie? cause i tried to find any and coudnt . Found only infos its exatcly opposite as u saying. From what iv know any on hit on kill and damage mods do not count to minions but i might be wrong if it is kind of debuff on target tha allows to take more dmg from every source.

edit: ok i conffirmed it myslef it rly shows on the tooltip atleast so seems i was missing alot of dmg whole time good to know there is still a place for upgrades ^^

and for anyone who wanna go for full greed distillate use there is an viable option either you sacrifice one jewel slot or flask .
Last edited by sqntektromator#1516 on Apr 18, 2017, 3:21:51 PM
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tomay wrote:
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styyled wrote:
- Clears all content in the game, while your character is dead


Yeah? And how does work with Chimera? ^^

When you're dead they get as far as the smoke phase and then you can wait until cows come home. ;)


This game is not that easy there is only 3 bosses you need to learn how to play.
with chimera save ur flasks up and ur vaal skils go around try to find him in smokes..

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IceSword wrote:
What about Ascendancy's steps?

1. Liedge of the Primordial
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?

And how many Harmonies jewels needed to switch 6 fire golems to 4 fire + 1 cold + 1 lighting ???

Thanks for the great build!


paragon of calamity 2nd
pendulum 3rd
mastermind 4th

8 harmony 1 eminence i use these.
and use 5 flame 1 lightning its fastest combination.
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
Last edited by MrsDeath_#3960 on Apr 18, 2017, 3:14:12 PM
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thevdende wrote:
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it already but there are some minor details which OP didn't mention, which I find quite important.

Wise Oak = pen works on your flame golems (check your golem offensive sheet and rpess wise oak the fire pen will increase).

Pendulum of destruction affects golems, which is great dps.

Shaper of desolation is amazing too, the pen counts for your flame golems once again, and using ball lighting triggers it! it's an extra 25% pen awesome!

this shit needs to be nerfed ^^



its mastermind of discord working as pen for golems not shaper of desolation.
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
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Frofrosted wrote:
Gotta ask,


my golems died a lot on vaal temple bosses corrupted, its just me or everone have the same problem?

also i have a 6l i wonder mysefl what i can do beter because of colors,

right now im using

Flame Golem > Spell Echo > GMP > Minion DMG > Empower 3.

controle destruction is better than empower 3 or minion dmg? is it worth to change the colors or just leave it like this?

Also i tried to check flame golem dps on Path of Building and i Couldnt find why it doesnt show, how can i check?

vaal temple and uber trio bosses are dangerous for our totems so keep resummonning them also dont forget to use convocation time to time.
drop empower use fire pen for better clear speed if you have 5 link put controlled destruction in there.
Not everything about tooltip try to enjoy and discover the build while you playin' it.
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
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sqntektromator wrote:
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thevdende wrote:
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it already but there are some minor details which OP didn't mention, which I find quite important.

Wise Oak = pen works on your flame golems (check your golem offensive sheet and rpess wise oak the fire pen will increase).

Pendulum of destruction affects golems, which is great dps.

Shaper of desolation is amazing too, the pen counts for your flame golems once again, and using ball lighting triggers it! it's an extra 25% pen awesome!

this shit needs to be nerfed ^^


Could u confirm somehow your and some others theory or is this just something u belevie? cause i tried to find any and coudnt . Found only infos its exatcly opposite as u saying. From what iv know any on hit on kill and damage mods do not count to minions but i might be wrong if it is kind of debuff on target tha allows to take more dmg from every source.

edit: ok i conffirmed it myslef it rly shows on the tooltip atleast so seems i was missing alot of dmg whole time good to know there is still a place for upgrades ^^

and for anyone who wanna go for full greed distillate use there is an viable option either you sacrifice one jewel slot or flask .


that jewel is not a good idea for this build.
at some point (if you wanna do hard endgame content) you have to resummon your golems while you are fighting the bosses. so increasing your mana cost would not be a good idea.
u could use the flask but honestly resummoning is better in the situations your golems die.
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!
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MrsDeath_ wrote:
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Frofrosted wrote:
Gotta ask,


my golems died a lot on vaal temple bosses corrupted, its just me or everone have the same problem?

also i have a 6l i wonder mysefl what i can do beter because of colors,

right now im using

Flame Golem > Spell Echo > GMP > Minion DMG > Empower 3.

controle destruction is better than empower 3 or minion dmg? is it worth to change the colors or just leave it like this?

Also i tried to check flame golem dps on Path of Building and i Couldnt find why it doesnt show, how can i check?

vaal temple and uber trio bosses are dangerous for our totems so keep resummonning them also dont forget to use convocation time to time.
drop empower use fire pen for better clear speed if you have 5 link put controlled destruction in there.
Not everything about tooltip try to enjoy and discover the build while you playin' it.


Sry i forgot to mention i also got fire pen,

Right now i have a 6L

Flame Golem > Fire Pen > Spell Echo > GMP > Minion DMG > Empower 3

so i wondering instead of spending thousands of chroms, which are the better combination or if its really worth to change 1 of the 3 red sockets to blue, because eventually i can use a empower 4, and 3R1G2B is expensive,
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that jewel is not a good idea for this build.
at some point (if you wanna do hard endgame content) you have to resummon your golems while you are fighting the bosses. so increasing your mana cost would not be a good idea.
u could use the flask but honestly resummoning is better in the situations your golems die.


first of all for me the streght of build like this is showed by combining mf options and good dmg clear speed cause if u wanna focus on bosses there are a lot of better builds than this .
Second i dont see the point of going full greed on hardest bosses if someone lacks dmg or do not feel can handle. For any other content this build just facerolls with already 10 jewels only (and u can take mutch more) so there is no harm sacrificing one .
And last one is where you reach good enought gear and play corretcly u rarely need resummon any golems my last 2 uber trio fight ended up with only one fire golem dead each fight and deathless from me. I only swapped inc q for fire pen and vaal haste for dese tahts all, rest was my farming gear.

On minos they die more often ofc but the can do already so mtuch damage before it take max 2 ,3 portals for me to kill minos on hard mods. Its not like im emulating hc experience everytime i just let them do their job avoid shit try to lure them out or conv and come back if i die no resummoning.
Last edited by sqntektromator#1516 on Apr 18, 2017, 3:48:59 PM
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Frofrosted wrote:
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MrsDeath_ wrote:
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Frofrosted wrote:
Gotta ask,


my golems died a lot on vaal temple bosses corrupted, its just me or everone have the same problem?

also i have a 6l i wonder mysefl what i can do beter because of colors,

right now im using

Flame Golem > Spell Echo > GMP > Minion DMG > Empower 3.

controle destruction is better than empower 3 or minion dmg? is it worth to change the colors or just leave it like this?

Also i tried to check flame golem dps on Path of Building and i Couldnt find why it doesnt show, how can i check?

vaal temple and uber trio bosses are dangerous for our totems so keep resummonning them also dont forget to use convocation time to time.
drop empower use fire pen for better clear speed if you have 5 link put controlled destruction in there.
Not everything about tooltip try to enjoy and discover the build while you playin' it.


Sry i forgot to mention i also got fire pen,

Right now i have a 6L


Flame Golem > Fire Pen > Spell Echo > GMP > Minion DMG > Empower 3

so i wondering instead of spending thousands of chroms, which are the better combination or if its really worth to change 1 of the 3 red sockets to blue, because eventually i can use a empower 4, and 3R1G2B is expensive,

FLAME GOLEM- SPELL ECHO- GMP- MINION DMG- FIRE PEN- CONTROLLED DESTRUCTION
these are the best gems you can use u dont need emp 4 or 3 .
Trust your mind and strengthen your abilities!

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