Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!

kudos to you admitting traps are challenging. You also do lab because you have to for ascendency points and not really because you enjoy it?

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Zpidead wrote:

kudos to you admitting traps are challenging. You also do lab because you have to for ascendency points and not really because you enjoy it?

I never said they're not challenging to begin with. Of course they are. That's the point of the traps. If they weren't challenging to any build, Turtledove may actually have a point with poor design, God forbid.

What I'm trying to teach you here is that you're trying to fit wheels on a car using a teaspoon and complaining that it's not working. Use the right tool for the job, or deal with the struggle. Yes that means swtiching out of things like VP sometimes. That's not unheard of at all.

CI builds in general spec into life early and out when they switch to CI. Why? Because it's a struggle in merci with 800 life and 400 ES. Adapt and rejoice or don't and expect to fail. But don't blame the game when you're setting the limits yourself.

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Zpidead wrote:

So because i choose to play this character i have to accept a cost of one regret every time i gonna set foot in trials or lab? You realise how stupid that is. I bet you all run chicken mode all regen phys mig trap survival characters so you can call people like me morons.

The point is i wasnt even inside LAB. It was a fucking TRIAL. fire floor trial was easy but those big sawblades are just to big and to fast moving
You dont have time to react and cant see before hand because field of view in PoE isnt made for this kind of gameplay.

They could half the damage of traps and it would still be scary and make regen characters take as much damage maybe we can get some balanced traps

Cant even see how people liking Lab is defending traps. Are they really so fun for you? Do you launch game thinking oh boy i really hope they have some fun traps in lab today. Maybe sawblades i really like those or no wait what about spike floors i had really wet dreams about those yesterday.
bet there is alot of better games out there if you really want that kind of gameplay.

The Moron signing out

It just makes it easier. Which seems to be what you want. You want everything handed out to you without putting effort. I can play lab with VP just fine.

You absolutely have time to react in the trials and you thinking otherwise shows how little creativity you have.

Never wondered why only a super small percentage of the players cry about lab? Because most players know how to deal with stuff.

I just suck at it then :( I just feel a bit sad that my favorite game added this thing i cant handle and really feel i need to do to enjoy the maps wich i love to play. I dont know something with the engine my reaction times or coordination or all of it. I have no problem with bosses and maps in general i just suck at traps. I dont claim ive Done shaper and guardians on Hc but they are optional. The traps are not.

I should just accept i suck at traps and move on from the game

or you can, you know, take one of your SC characters and.. practice it for a while so you are not scared when you see traps? panic kills in the lab. you wont panic once you realize that these things are way easier with some practice. WAAAY easier.

If you are playing a life based build, and are specced into Vaal Pact, it just means you need better flask management when dealing with traps... Seriously... It isn't nearly as punishing as the crybabies act like.

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Xavderion wrote:

This thread is still going? I feel like most people don't care enough about lab to give a shit. If you really don't like it you just skip it until you're powerful enough to faceroll it in 10 minutes.

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THIS is the ACTUAL majority opinion. The Lab Haters would have you believe otherwise, but the ACTUAL majority just do not give a fuck, and have learned the lab mechanics to the point that it is a fucking cakewalk.

I don't really understand the complaint about Vaal Pact. Many ES builds don't have Zealots Oath so have no regen. They have recharge but it doesn't work while taking damage. Vaal Pact life builds on the other hand have flasks to get regen when they need it.

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Docbp87 wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

This thread is still going? I feel like most people don't care enough about lab to give a shit. If you really don't like it you just skip it until you're powerful enough to faceroll it in 10 minutes.

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THIS is the ACTUAL majority opinion. The Lab Haters would have you believe otherwise, but the ACTUAL majority just do not give a fuck, and have learned the lab mechanics to the point that it is a fucking cakewalk.

You're actually (partially) right. Most people have adapted to the fact that there is an unfun and deeply flawed part of the game that is now a prerequisite to endgame play for most builds. They tolerate it, they cheese it, and/or they pay someone else to run them through it. Many have even accepted it, despite their own lack of personal enjoyment.

None of the above has any bearing on whether or not the status quo is good, however. So your statement, which for the sake of argument let's say is 100% true, is of questionable relevance to the issue at hand.

A portion of the game required for character development that is hated by a significant minority of players, and barely tolerated by another significant minority, has hurt the game and its community, and it will continue to hurt the game and its community for as long as it remains in this state. The issue comes up again and again in first-impression threads by new players who join the forums to say how much they hate the lab. And then this shit starts all over again, with people insulting each other and trolling each other and yelling at each other for having opinions which are not shared, and for making yet another thread (as if that new user has any idea of the forum's history).

This is BAD for the game. It will continue to be BAD for the game.

You can argue that the feelings of people who don't share your opinion are "wrong" until you are blue in the face, but it will not change that reality.

Also normal trials i could avoid almost all damage from traps. Uber trials i just cant there is no way to see beyond whats on your screen so i cant see where next safe place to rest is thats why i die. Those blades are so big and this one came out from the wall and killed me so fast and had cooldown on my blink arrow. But leaving the thread for now i thought this was a good place to share my frustration but more trap lovers then haters here i feel