Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!

No, I just stated that your "account checking" system is flawed and that you're making dishonest statements by saying that there are only 3 or 4 alt accounts on the list.

In a last ditch attempt, everything I've stated in todays exchange is in reference to the following quote...
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Turtledove wrote:
I started looking at some other data. An "o" after the name means the account is older than March 2016. A "$" after the name means that a supporter title is in the profile. An "*" after the name means that neither of those is the case.


None of that matters because you can't check whether or not these are alt accounts. An alt account doesn't have to have been created recently, many people have multiple accounts. Your continuous claims that "there are only 3 or 4 alt accounts" is something you absolutely cannot verify. You also cannot verify who does and doesn't have supporter packs so signifying that on the list is also meaningless.

You claim you're trying to do the honest thing and be transparent, then stop making these claims.

You're welcome to go back through and re-read everything but I doubt that would help clarify, you seem only willing to jump to conclusions and then imply I need therapy.

Edit: Also, I'm pretty sure I've admitted to you in PM's that I didn't believe it was only a handful of people responsible for the posts. But keep acting like that's the claim I'm making. :)
Just a lowly standard player. May RNGesus be with you.
Last edited by Shovelcut#3450 on Dec 29, 2016, 11:11:13 PM
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Turtledove wrote:
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silumit wrote:
Hell, even if every one of listed account had 2-3 alts, that'd still be about 300 unique people who don't like Lab. But WKs can't be beaten with reason because they don't want to.


Silumit, thank you for posting your opinion on this issue. I have interpreted your post to be in support of there being a need to improve labyrinth or to move the ascendancy points to a challenge outside labyrinth. I have therefore added your name to the list. You are number 691 on the list. If I've misinterpreted your post or you'd like your name removed from the list then please let me know.

As the list grows longer our voices grow stronger.

P.S. Please note that Silumit's account was created years ago and has high level toons associated with the account. Also he posts 2.43 times per day on the average. Yet he has decided to make his first post on labyrinth today. (Or at least this is the first time Zaludoz or I noticed him posting.) I will vouch for Silumit not being an alt account and I'm convinced that he is a real person that thinks that PoE is a great game. I also think there is a good chance that he practices good personal hygiene and would decide to not destroy the world should he ever be faced with such a decision.
I'm not against the lab as the place to farm enchants (and, in case of Uber one, phat lootz). But my opinion on asc points is that they should be separated. Maybe you get them for beating Malachai or whatever, but it should be in regular ARPG setting, not in the lab.
And worst change is putting almost all bosses in new version of maps into fucking small areas, where you can't kite well or dodge stuff. What a terrible idiot invented that I want say to him: dude flick you, seriously flick you very much.
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Shovelcut wrote:
No, I just stated that your "account checking" system is flawed and that you're making dishonest statements by saying that there are only 3 or 4 alt accounts on the list.

In a last ditch attempt, everything I've stated in todays exchange is in reference to the following quote...
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Turtledove wrote:
I started looking at some other data. An "o" after the name means the account is older than March 2016. A "$" after the name means that a supporter title is in the profile. An "*" after the name means that neither of those is the case.


None of that matters because you can't check whether or not these are alt accounts. An alt account doesn't have to have been created recently, many people have multiple accounts. Your continuous claims that "there are only 3 or 4 alt accounts" is something you absolutely cannot verify. You also cannot verify who does and doesn't have supporter packs so signifying that on the list is also meaningless.

You claim you're trying to do the honest thing and be transparent, then stop making these claims.

You're welcome to go back through and re-read everything but I doubt that would help clarify, you seem only willing to jump to conclusions and then imply I need therapy.

Edit: Also, I'm pretty sure I've admitted to you in PM's that I didn't believe it was only a handful of people responsible for the posts. But keep acting like that's the claim I'm making. :)


You copied Lagwin's post in your response to me. That was what I was responding to when I said yes I had proven that was not the case. You then said I couldn't do that or at least that was what it sure appeared to be what you were saying. Otherwise I don't know what you think I said was proven???? I still stand by my position that anyone looking at the facts and thinking about it but still concludes that there could be a handful of people making up the list of 691 people are suffering from a paranoia. (Note that I'm not a therapist or psychologist and use the term "paranoia" as a layman with no intent on pretending to understanding what the clinical term might mean in all its detail.) If that is not what you believe then it means that you likely have a vulnerability to stories about Dung Beetles when authored by me but otherwise are not likely in need of therapy.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
Just ripped to uber trial. my second character lost this league to traps this gameplay isnt for me anymore :(

you can tell me i suck i can admit that but dying to traps in trial instead of by monster in maps just sucks.

playing vaal pact character in that shit is just stupid 2 seconds i had to react by that blade killing me i guess im to old for those reaction times. the fact the game is so zoomed in i couldnt even see past the first blade i had no chance seeing where to go next.

so this league is over for me now gonna check patch notes for future changes but leaving the game for now hugely dissapointed with the direction the game is headed.

really LOVE the game but can't complete those traps leaves me with a strange opinion about the current path of exile
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Zpidead wrote:
Just ripped to uber trial. my second character lost this league to traps this gameplay isnt for me anymore :(

you can tell me i suck i can admit that but dying to traps in trial instead of by monster in maps just sucks.

playing vaal pact character in that shit is just stupid 2 seconds i had to react by that blade killing me i guess im to old for those reaction times. the fact the game is so zoomed in i couldnt even see past the first blade i had no chance seeing where to go next.

so this league is over for me now gonna check patch notes for future changes but leaving the game for now hugely dissapointed with the direction the game is headed.

really LOVE the game but can't complete those traps leaves me with a strange opinion about the current path of exile


Zpidead, thank you for posting your second post in a labyrinth thread and only your 15th post since creating your account on Jul 24, 2012. I would like to personally vouch that Zpidead is not an alt account and that I believe that he too likely has good personal hygiene and if he was ever faced with the decision to destroy the world or not that he would choose not to destroy the world.

Zpidead, do not despair. Don't give up hope on GGG. They will likely make the ascendancy points available outside labyrinth in 3.0. I guess this because Release 3.0 will be a major release with major changes. It will apparently require changes to the way ascendancy points are rewarded, since they say a difficulty level may be removed. So I think that they will just move the ascendancy points out of Labyrinth completely and make them rewards for a new challenge being planned for 3.0. The reason I believe this is because GGG has historically shown themselves to be smart and successful and they will continue to be smart and successful in 3.0 and so will want to stop alienating many of the people that love their game.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Zpidead wrote:
you can tell me i suck i can admit that but dying to traps in trial instead of by monster in maps just sucks.

That happens to the best of us from time to time. Sometimes you zig when you should have zagged.

Next time you're in a similar situation perhaps respecing out of VP would make your run a bit easier. :)

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Turtledove wrote:
I would like to personally vouch that Zpidead is not an alt account and that I believe that he too likely has good personal hygiene and if he was ever faced with the decision to destroy the world or not that he would choose not to destroy the world.


*facepalming intensifies*
Just a lowly standard player. May RNGesus be with you.
this stuff has to be a lost bet or something. i simply cannot believe that someone sane can be so detached from reality

'they will likely change'? sure, like they were to in previous patch and in patch before that. the same illusions and dellusions. and if ggg is 'smart' then accept that 'there is nothing wrong with divisive content' and that lab is designed to be different on purpose, to give some alternative to do in the end-game. qarl-dev told that in the interview and nowhere in it he even remotely suggested that anything is being talked/considered in this area.

how many months of wasted life will be enough for you guys (and your alts) to leave?

i know that no hobby is 'bad' - but this one is simply a health hazard. creating a list and checking every crevice of this forum for anything that even remotely fits on it is pretty damn scary. and now im being dead serious.
All this discussing about alts has left you all not seeing the giant chaos orb in the room.

700 people is a tiny number, legit or not. It doesn't matter, obviously GGG and most player do not want to see the lab changed.

Changing a core part of the game to please 700 people at most?

And how many of those actually aren't going to complain about changes made to it? Half? How many of those are going to complain about more things having just had their way? How many will play the game still 6 months later?

It's really not even about 700 people at all and they know this.
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
Last edited by Xavathos#5130 on Dec 30, 2016, 3:53:00 AM
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Zpidead wrote:
Just ripped to uber trial. my second character lost this league to traps this gameplay isnt for me anymore :(

you can tell me i suck i can admit that but dying to traps in trial instead of by monster in maps just sucks.

playing vaal pact character in that shit is just stupid 2 seconds i had to react by that blade killing me i guess im to old for those reaction times. the fact the game is so zoomed in i couldnt even see past the first blade i had no chance seeing where to go next.

so this league is over for me now gonna check patch notes for future changes but leaving the game for now hugely dissapointed with the direction the game is headed.

really LOVE the game but can't complete those traps leaves me with a strange opinion about the current path of exile
i dont understand why people like you complain lab is too difficult, when a lot of bossfights are way harder

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path of exile expert
Last edited by West_GGG#0000 on Dec 30, 2016, 7:04:11 PM
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IllusorySuperiority wrote:
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Zpidead wrote:
Just ripped to uber trial. my second character lost this league to traps this gameplay isnt for me anymore :(

you can tell me i suck i can admit that but dying to traps in trial instead of by monster in maps just sucks.

playing vaal pact character in that shit is just stupid 2 seconds i had to react by that blade killing me i guess im to old for those reaction times. the fact the game is so zoomed in i couldnt even see past the first blade i had no chance seeing where to go next.

so this league is over for me now gonna check patch notes for future changes but leaving the game for now hugely dissapointed with the direction the game is headed.

really LOVE the game but can't complete those traps leaves me with a strange opinion about the current path of exile
i dont understand why people like you complain lab is too difficult, when a lot of bossfights are way harder

and you honestly if you die to sawblades maybe you're just a moron


Spec out of VP for lab run then. Costs 1 regret. You're suffering from the downside of what makes you OP everywhere else. Doh.
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.

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