Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!

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xtesterx wrote:

Just play the game and you'll find all trials sooner or later. Never had an issue finding all trials. When this is your problem then you didn't play enough maps. Simple.

On the other hand: Traps just feel misplaced in this genre. I also think Lab is not fun (for most builds, Hello summoners) and I would completely remove Ascendancy from Lab overall to make the Lab an optional place to run.

Thank you for voicing your opinion that Ascendancy should best be separated from the lab. I've added your name to the list of people that have voiced a similar opinion now at 1037 account names long. See opening post for details.

The ONLY two issues i see that could potentially use some attention are...

Trials for Uber lab..
I simply have no idea how a SSF player can stomic getting these without some serious RNG involved. They should have a mechanic where at the very least the more Trials you run the higher chances the ones you still have missing gain more chance to spawn.. Up to 100 after a certain threshold.

The fact i have to resort to Global 820 every single fucking league for those last 1-2 Trials is simply broken. This cant hurt the game only serve to help. No Excuse for it to continue on the way it works currently. I even kept up with it one league and after 40+ trails and giving up and resorting to 820 guess what? Had i not resorted to 820 that Legaue and waited will i found it after 80+ Trials? I STILL would have never found that fucking last one... Thats why every single league since then? Second i get to maps i hit 820 and in 10-15 mins im running lab.. But thats not acceptable.

Trading while in Lab in General...
There is no reason if you want me to run content i can possibly leave without scrapping my run you do not give me the ability to have some way to trade at the very least at the "Checkpoints" at my stash before the boss fights. Instance those rooms like my HO so i can Invite other players to come to where i am and trade before i engage my well earned fight.

Those are after all this time the two major issues ive found as someone that might otherwise completely understand and have the ability to completely overcome all others grips the community seems to have with Lab. It serves it place and it holds some of the best risk vs reward your build can possibly gain in this game left. The first 3 labs are child's play with the final Uber Lab being the only one that players even have to prepare for at all on even the most novice of play level. If you as the player have not gained the ability or learned the tools nessisary to complete all labs with ease by this point? Its simply because you lack the ability, time, or will, or whatever excuse you can come up with to ever try and conquer the endgame of POE. So until you figure out your own shortcomings? Thats your individual Wall.. All players run into them at some point... most overcome them.. while the rest come complain on the forums instead of problem solving..

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Demonoz wrote:

Trials for Uber lab..
I simply have no idea how a SSF player can stomic getting these without some serious RNG involved. They should have a mechanic where at the very least the more Trials you run the higher chances the ones you still have missing gain more chance to spawn.. Up to 100 after a certain threshold.

Actually that's already the case, though in a far smaller manner then it should be.
The spawn-rate of unfinished trials is higher then that of already finished ones, which doesn't solve the issue about those you haven't run still spawning as long as you're in the progress to try and unlock the lab.
This leads to situations where people reach lvl 90 and are uber-elder viable at times before the lab is unlocked... which is a bit ridiculous.

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Kulze wrote:

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Demonoz wrote:

Trials for Uber lab..
I simply have no idea how a SSF player can stomic getting these without some serious RNG involved. They should have a mechanic where at the very least the more Trials you run the higher chances the ones you still have missing gain more chance to spawn.. Up to 100 after a certain threshold.

Actually that's already the case, though in a far smaller manner then it should be.
The spawn-rate of unfinished trials is higher then that of already finished ones, which doesn't solve the issue about those you haven't run still spawning as long as you're in the progress to try and unlock the lab.
This leads to situations where people reach lvl 90 and are uber-elder viable at times before the lab is unlocked... which is a bit ridiculous.

If that's the case this must have been changed since Abyss League if so. Abyss League was the last league i tried to self find all 6 trials and after nearly 50 Keys farmed or Trials done and hit level 91 and i was still missing one trial and just give up and hit up 820. Since then however every league i simply hit maps, Go straight to 820, and get all 6 within about 15-20 mins and just dont even bother. Before Abyss i always tried to self find my trials and typically would hit between 20-30 keys and again just give up on the last 1 to 2 trials. I think it was Essence League i hit 30 Keys and still needed 2 trials. Its definitely something that needs more none the less.

GGG, you need to better address this issue of the horrible Labyrinth content being forced on people that don't like this horrible content. I've run out of space in the opening post. There is a 50,000 character limit per post. I initially hit that limit years ago. I separated the two lists and put the account name list on a Google site. I hit the 50,000 character limit again as the thread list kept growing and moved most of the lead up text to the thread list to the same Google site. Well, we've hit the 50,000 character limit again and I now have to delete the thread names from the oldest threads as I add new threads to the list. This is getting sadder.

GGG, how about you just fix this issue? Perhaps it is something that you could plan in say the big 4.0 release? I'm sure there is some great content being planned that would serve as a nice challenge for the ascendancy points reward? Please consider something along those lines. Thank you!

They thought about this and almost did it. Then they decided to just sell mtx instead. "We're in the money!"

So I guess it was announced at ExileCon that ascendancy points would no longer be locked behind the unliked (by many) lab content. See thread LAB 4.0 - I hear its gone.

This is great news!

That means I can officially retire from keeping the list in the opening post of this thread up to date. Good thing because the list of threads complaining about labyrinth has gotten so long it no longer fits within the 50,000 character limit for a post.

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Turtledove wrote:

That means I can officially retire from keeping the list in the opening post of this thread up to date.

Did i miss something, so players will be able to get OLD ascendancies through NEW ways? If not, i cant see how the problems with labyrinth can be considered as solved. And what about enchants? You mean they will not add additional problems, but all old problems will persist. If so, you cant retire.

boooooo the lab is so trivial to unlock, All i can say is *clap* now we'll have more mostly dead content bloat because people couldn't handle one of the easiest endgame battles in POE.

also pffffffffffffff at saying you have to go to 820 to finish trials or that you'll reach level 90 before you do like... you serious? I can't take that seriously that is either due to inexperience or is a complete fabrication for dramatic effect.

I will finish them in a day by myself without any global 820 or asking my friends/guild to help me.. in fact its become as of blight league EASIER than it has ever been to target farm these trials.