My 2c on Lab

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SmokeBlunts wrote:

Remove ascendancy points from lab. Keep enchants and drops. I think everyone would be happy then, except maybe the people who sell lab runs.

This is what I find baffling. The solution to the problem isn't a zero sum proposition. Simply remove the points from the lab and everyone wins, no one loses. Those who like it get it as it is now and those who don't can ignore it and be on their merry way.

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SmokeBlunts wrote:

Remove ascendancy points from lab. Keep enchants and drops. I think everyone would be happy then, except maybe the people who sell lab runs.

Honestly you don't need to remove them from the lab, just add alternative ways to get them. Let's get serious, GGG will never remove points from the lab, no matter what.

Well, we have been saying that all along, remove the points from the lab!

You lab lovers could then farm it to your hearts content, while we lab haters would never have to go in there.

Perfect!

We wouldn't have to put up with the glitches, disconnects, lag and loss of game play "because we have bad internet connections" .... lol.

Or simply the ultra boring and tedious arcade style game play that GGG read about when he was young.

Or the "lab is terrific and I love it" crap from the GGG fanboys.

You guys can keep farming the lab every day for your enchants/loot etc and everyone would be happy.

Easy solution. Sensible, too.

GGG could place the points anywhere.. eg: after defeating a boss like Mal or Atziri or Daresso etc.

What's wrong with that? Nothing, imo.

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Entropic_Fire wrote:

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SmokeBlunts wrote:

Remove ascendancy points from lab. Keep enchants and drops. I think everyone would be happy then, except maybe the people who sell lab runs.

Honestly I don't see the need but ascendancy points WOULD feel more natural if you got them after defeating Malachai on that difficulty. If the 5th+6th points were gated behind map Malachai instead do you think we would see less complaints or more?

Ofcourse more, and this time from the proud white knights too, oh how i would love to see those points gated for the 95% of the players. Lets see how right their decision to gate AP behind alienating boring content was.


As for the willingly ignorant who compare masters with labyrinth.

Masters optional : if you dont want to do them you lose item rewards (crafting)

Atziri optional : if you dont want to kill her you lose item rewards (atziri specific uniques)

Labyrinth NOT-optional : if you dont want to run it you lose item rewards (lab specific uniques, enchantments, treasure chests, jewels) AND FUCKING ASCENDANCY POINTS aka tools for a better character customization


Now compare the three and look how excessively many rewards the labyrinth has (especially uber, its like going in a candy shop and everything is free), guess why is that geniouses. Yes thats right cause the labyrinth is a big pile of turds and the only way to FORCE people to do it is filling it with every king of loot pinata plus the ascendancies.

Fuck the labyrinth seriously. Remove the ascendancy points from it and everyone can enjoy playing the game he likes and not have to interact with all kind of arrogant and willingly ignorant white knights here in the forums.

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I give my EXTREME support

lab is PAINFUL and TERRIBLE

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Entropic_Fire wrote:

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SmokeBlunts wrote:

Remove ascendancy points from lab. Keep enchants and drops. I think everyone would be happy then, except maybe the people who sell lab runs.

Honestly I don't see the need but ascendancy points WOULD feel more natural if you got them after defeating Malachai on that difficulty. If the 5th+6th points were gated behind map Malachai instead do you think we would see less complaints or more?

Considering how much people complain it would still be a complain fest.

"Oh no i DCed because Malachai effects are too much!"

"Fight is too hard! Malachai hits too hard!"

"Points are gated behind Malachai!"

or even better, bad players still complaining about Doedre, Shavarone and Maligaro. Even with the availability of portals people would complain. The community became excessively negative during perandus league and its because GGG brought in the wrong crowd with that league. That being the "entitled" crowd.

What do people think is more important, creating alternate content for a vocal minority so they can get ascendancy points which they will guaranteed still complain about, or GGG actually using those resources wisely on more important things like game optimization ?

Or do you guys really prefer to have shitty frame drops, micro freezes, while being forced to play on an unappealing visual setting which breaks game immersion ?

I think its pretty clear whats more important and i think its pretty clear GGG knows whats more important as well considering Labyrinth went unchanged.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

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Entropic_Fire wrote:

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SmokeBlunts wrote:

Remove ascendancy points from lab. Keep enchants and drops. I think everyone would be happy then, except maybe the people who sell lab runs.

Honestly I don't see the need but ascendancy points WOULD feel more natural if you got them after defeating Malachai on that difficulty. If the 5th+6th points were gated behind map Malachai instead do you think we would see less complaints or more?

Considering how much people complain it would still be a complain fest.

"Oh no i DCed because Malachai effects are too much!"

"Fight is too hard! Malachai hits too hard!"

"Points are gated behind Malachai!"

or even better, bad players still complaining about Doedre, Shavarone and Maligaro. Even with the availability of portals people would complain. The community became excessively negative during perandus league and its because GGG brought in the wrong crowd with that league. That being the "entitled" crowd.

What do people think is more important, creating alternate content for a vocal minority so they can get ascendancy points which they will guaranteed still complain about, or GGG actually using those resources wisely on more important things like game optimization ?

Or do you guys really prefer to have shitty frame drops, micro freezes, while being forced to play on an unappealing visual setting which breaks game immersion ?

I think its pretty clear whats more important and i think its pretty clear GGG knows whats more important as well considering Labyrinth went unchanged.

i find it funny that you are so dismissive of the people complaining being "new people who just came with perandus, people we dont want" considering after check your and my join dates, me being the OP, ive actually been here longer than you

You realize you dont have to be new to fall under that category right ? Theres certainly old players who fall under the category as well.

Talk about being dismissive and talk about not reading and putting words into my mouth.

"The community became excessively negative during perandus league and its because GGG brought in the wrong crowd with that league. That being the "entitled" crowd."

Is what i said, what part of that to i say "new players" at all ? No where.

Edit - Oh and sorry but no, your account isnt actually older than mine because this isnt my original beta account which is lost. This is my second account i made after i lost my first account because my beta account was on some throw away email which i lost and forgot about. (because back then i thought i wouldnt even be playing this game now, i simply got in and gave the game a whirl never expecting to end up liking it).

Ahhh tinfoil i hope you are still around for the i told you so moment

On that day i make a collage out of your best bits


Buisness 1 o 1 an unsatisfied customer leaves and its hard to get him back

We will all laugh hard looking back on the vocal minority fairytale

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ventiman wrote:

Ahhh tinfoil i hope you are still around for the i told you so moment

On that day i make a collage out of your best bits


Buisness 1 o 1 a unsatisfied customer leaves and its hard to get him back

Business 101, people dont give a shit about the customer, they care about money. Welcome to real life kiddo.