Labyrinth has killed any motivation to make new characters for me.

The real point is a "labyrinth" should not to be a mandatory aspect in an arpg like poe.

an arpg should be more on actions, not on labyrinths and tricks.

it ruins the concept of an arpg, but it's a feedback of course, well it's my feedback.

My feedback is that the concept of a labyrinth (tomb rider style) is not good in a game like poe, and also that blocks me try the new content.

Do you know what is a feedback?

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RoyalStar wrote:

The real point is a "labyrinth" should not to be a mandatory aspect in an arpg like poe.

an arpg should be more on actions, not on labyrinths and tricks.

it ruins the concept of an arpg, but it's a feedback of course, well it's my feedback.

My feedback is that the concept of a labyrinth (tomb rider style) is not good in a game like poe, and also that blocks me try the new content.

Do you know what is a feedback?

And my feedback is that it is ok. Do you really think we're going anywhere here, or it is just being stubborn, and refusing to discuss, instead shielding yourself with it is my opinion, I don't need to prove anything. You are free to do so (because there is no way I can force you to not do it - nor would I do it anyways), but know that we won't get anywhere that way. Probably will only beat that dead horse to its 3rd or 5th death... :v

So you guys are still arguing whether the lab is optional or not...interesting.

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kewwa1 wrote:

Let's be honest, it's straightforward whining. It's very good implementation, it's seems like many people are auto-mode on : "Blast trough the content as fast as possible", but now if there is OPTIONAL game content that needs to slow down then people get mad on GGG, wtf?

Lastly, one run takes about 10 mins, it makes 30 min per account in lab, not a big trouble.. 30 min and reward you get is crazy, best you can have. It would be stupid to you get ascendancy points for no work..

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Feins_ wrote:

So you guys are still arguing whether the lab is optional or not...interesting.

Labyrinth is NOT optional, and if you dont believe me, then hear it from Chris Wilson HERE from 39minute mark onwards.

As for the point made in the OP, you are not alone mate on this. FUCK the labyrinth.

P.S. no need to further analyze the points or rebutal (for the millionth time) the willingly ignorant white knights, my case is here for those who dont know. Join the movement people

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Regulator wrote:

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kewwa1 wrote:

Let's be honest, it's straightforward whining. It's very good implementation, it's seems like many people are auto-mode on : "Blast trough the content as fast as possible", but now if there is OPTIONAL game content that needs to slow down then people get mad on GGG, wtf?

Lastly, one run takes about 10 mins, it makes 30 min per account in lab, not a big trouble.. 30 min and reward you get is crazy, best you can have. It would be stupid to you get ascendancy points for no work..

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Feins_ wrote:

So you guys are still arguing whether the lab is optional or not...interesting.

Labyrinth is NOT optional, and if you dont believe me, then hear it from Chris Wilson HERE from 39minute mark onwards.

As for the point made in the OP, you are not alone mate on this. FUCK the labyrinth.

P.S. no need to further analyze the points or rebutal (for the millionth time) the willingly ignorant white knights, my case is here for those who dont know. Join the movement people

You don't know what the fuck optional means. Is your character stronger with ascendancy points? Oh course. But does that mean you have to have them? No it doesn't. Having mirrored gear would make your character stronger, so is that mandatory now too?

Yeah OP, I'm in the same boat. I have several ideas I'd like to try with the new classes, but everytime I sit down to plan them out, I just go: "oh wait, naw.."

I think I'm gonna play with my Standard army for awhile, and if nothing changes in the long run - well, not sure what I'll do tbh.

@Lab lovers: I don't care what you think. I have said SO many times it's got nothing to do with difficulty or challenge. You just don't want to understand how something you like so much simply cannot be fun for everyone. Sorry about that.

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Regulator wrote:

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kewwa1 wrote:

Let's be honest, it's straightforward whining. It's very good implementation, it's seems like many people are auto-mode on : "Blast trough the content as fast as possible", but now if there is OPTIONAL game content that needs to slow down then people get mad on GGG, wtf?

Lastly, one run takes about 10 mins, it makes 30 min per account in lab, not a big trouble.. 30 min and reward you get is crazy, best you can have. It would be stupid to you get ascendancy points for no work..

"

Feins_ wrote:

So you guys are still arguing whether the lab is optional or not...interesting.

Labyrinth is NOT optional, and if you dont believe me, then hear it from Chris Wilson HERE from 39minute mark onwards.

As for the point made in the OP, you are not alone mate on this. FUCK the labyrinth.

P.S. no need to further analyze the points or rebutal (for the millionth time) the willingly ignorant white knights, my case is here for those who dont know. Join the movement people

No need to further analyze the points or rebuttal (for the millionth time) the willingly ignorant Lab-haters, my case is [links to my posts, I'm to lazy to find links to] for those who don't know. Join the movement people.

This is how far you get with such attitude. :-P Beating this poor dead horse, till it dies for the 5th time.
No exchange of thought is made, no points are being discussed, but instead we have flow of one's agenda till end of time, belittling other's opinions and name-calling, at the process.

To the hilt, brothers! For the peace of everyone!

But I guess this is what this forum is for! Because, as we can see moderators aren't even close to shutting down any of these horse slaughter houses.

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Ceri wrote:

Yeah OP, I'm in the same boat. I have several ideas I'd like to try with the new classes, but everytime I sit down to plan them out, I just go: "oh wait, naw.."

I think I'm gonna play with my Standard army for awhile, and if nothing changes in the long run - well, not sure what I'll do tbh.

@Lab lovers: I don't care what you think. I have said SO many times it's got nothing to do with difficulty or challenge. You just don't want to understand how something you like so much simply cannot be fun for everyone. Sorry about that.

I, for one, care about opinion of people who do not like Lab. And I said it several times. I want everyone (or at least as many people as possible) to enjoy the Lab. But at the same time, I'd love to have things I like in the Lab preserved. There are some solid ideas for the good changes, but this stupid agenda pushing of ruining it for people who like it, because some people don't like it is absurd. Don't expect sympathy and understanding (or support) from people you don't want to talk with, but instead are calling for them to get fucked over. :V

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Telzen wrote:

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Regulator wrote:

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kewwa1 wrote:

Let's be honest, it's straightforward whining. It's very good implementation, it's seems like many people are auto-mode on : "Blast trough the content as fast as possible", but now if there is OPTIONAL game content that needs to slow down then people get mad on GGG, wtf?

Lastly, one run takes about 10 mins, it makes 30 min per account in lab, not a big trouble.. 30 min and reward you get is crazy, best you can have. It would be stupid to you get ascendancy points for no work..

"

Feins_ wrote:

So you guys are still arguing whether the lab is optional or not...interesting.

Labyrinth is NOT optional, and if you dont believe me, then hear it from Chris Wilson HERE from 39minute mark onwards.

As for the point made in the OP, you are not alone mate on this. FUCK the labyrinth.

P.S. no need to further analyze the points or rebutal (for the millionth time) the willingly ignorant white knights, my case is here for those who dont know. Join the movement people

You don't know what the fuck optional means. Is your character stronger with ascendancy points? Oh course. But does that mean you have to have them? No it doesn't. Having mirrored gear would make your character stronger, so is that mandatory now too?

So you visited the link and still try to convince yourself ? If you havent visited the link im sorry for you and your anger problems. Visit the link and come and tell me that again, with the same audacity you do claim fictional nonsensical bullshit.

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Perq wrote:

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Regulator wrote:

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kewwa1 wrote:

Let's be honest, it's straightforward whining. It's very good implementation, it's seems like many people are auto-mode on : "Blast trough the content as fast as possible", but now if there is OPTIONAL game content that needs to slow down then people get mad on GGG, wtf?

Lastly, one run takes about 10 mins, it makes 30 min per account in lab, not a big trouble.. 30 min and reward you get is crazy, best you can have. It would be stupid to you get ascendancy points for no work..

"

Feins_ wrote:

So you guys are still arguing whether the lab is optional or not...interesting.

Labyrinth is NOT optional, and if you dont believe me, then hear it from Chris Wilson HERE from 39minute mark onwards.

As for the point made in the OP, you are not alone mate on this. FUCK the labyrinth.

P.S. no need to further analyze the points or rebutal (for the millionth time) the willingly ignorant white knights, my case is here for those who dont know. Join the movement people

No need to further analyze the points or rebuttal (for the millionth time) the willingly ignorant Lab-haters, my case is [links to my posts, I'm to lazy to find links to] for those who don't know. Join the movement people.

This is how far you get with such attitude. :-P Beating this poor dead horse, till it dies for the 5th time.
No exchange of thought is made, no points are being discussed, but instead we have flow of one's agenda till end of time, belittling other's opinions and name-calling, at the process.

To the hilt, brothers! For the peace of everyone!

But I guess this is what this forum is for! Because, as we can see moderators aren't even close to shutting down any of these horse slaughter houses.

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Ceri wrote:

Yeah OP, I'm in the same boat. I have several ideas I'd like to try with the new classes, but everytime I sit down to plan them out, I just go: "oh wait, naw.."

I think I'm gonna play with my Standard army for awhile, and if nothing changes in the long run - well, not sure what I'll do tbh.

@Lab lovers: I don't care what you think. I have said SO many times it's got nothing to do with difficulty or challenge. You just don't want to understand how something you like so much simply cannot be fun for everyone. Sorry about that.

I, for one, care about opinion of people who do not like Lab. And I said it several times. I want everyone (or at least as many people as possible) to enjoy the Lab. But at the same time, I'd love to have things I like in the Lab preserved. There are some solid ideas for the good changes, but this stupid agenda pushing of ruining it for people who like it, because some people don't like it is absurd.

Is this the way adults make conversation in your country? Copy pasta all day? If yes i might sent my 7years old nephew to run for president there, im 100% sure he will get your vote.

You cant shut down the TRUTH, and if you had even the slightest bit of dignity you wouldnt keep spreading lies and posting false facts.

Yes, the TRUTH will heal you! You just need to read and believe! Never have doubt in it, never question!

Fight for the TRUTH! NO ONE WILL STOP IT!

*slaughter*

And remember, we're the evil knights, who oppose the truth.

This is how this looks to me, mate. If you think you are have monopoly for the truth... well. We've been over this long ago. Doubt anything changed. :P

But tell me more, how of a bad person I'm, and how good of a person you are, for calling me all this stuff, and implying some xenophobic stuff.