Labyrinth has killed any motivation to make new characters for me.
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But what worse: enhancement rng system! This is worst thing GGG done to the game.
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" I love how some people invented new definition of optional. Lab is optional. For those, who still do not understand what OPTIONAL means: Do you need Atziri to complete story mode? No. Why? Because Atziri is optional. Do you need Atziri to reach level 100? No. Why? Because Atziri is optional. Now, lets take a look at Lab, shall we? Do you need Ascendancy Class to complete story mode? No. Why? Because Lab is optional. Do you need Ascendancy Class to reach level 100? No. Why? Because Lab is optional. Got it? One thing that I'll agree on, is that GGG shoved pretty stupid challenge in the Lab - one that is RNG based, and quite stupidly so. Atziri is on the list, too, but you only need to do it once. One can argue about the difficulty of these two tasks, but all in all, putting a RNG based challenge like this in the Lab was pretty dumb. I give you this. But it is still fucking OPTIONAL. It is very good, and you most likely want it on all of your characters. It makes it powerful, it makes you want it. It does not make it obligatory for everyone, tho. And to be honest, it is VERY easy, compared to how powerful rewards it gives. But people will complain anyways... ,---, So, given OP wants to quit over OPTIONAL content, I think GGG should not even make optional content that easy, with that many rewards, because people will take it as granted - something everyone should get, best option being freebies. Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
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" Yeah,both SC&HC perandus ladders are swarmed with so many not-ascendant classes,ladders are full of simple maruders,witches,templars etc.Dont wanna count,but i can bet that from 30k acounts on both ladders,99.50% are fully ascendant classes.It's so optional lol.Please stop that bullshit that lab is optional. Last edited by And1111#6139 on Apr 19, 2016, 3:05:21 AM
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" Yeah, take the LADDER, which is TOP PLAYERS in the league. As I said, everyone will want to take it, considering how easy it is, so you pretty much just confirmed what I said. But this is irrelevant whether it is optional or not. So yeah, nice try. EDIT: About what Chris said: yeah, they made the mistake of calling rewards Ascendancy Classes. Could be just generic bonuses to your character, or enchants on your eq. Now, everyone who ever wants to complete the game, needs Ascendancy class, because it is your character that is changing. EDIT2: Note the completely optional, too. :P Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. Last edited by Perq#4049 on Apr 19, 2016, 3:23:26 AM
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" EVERY player who plays this game WILL ascend his char,not just top 30k players.Your argument that lab is optional is false.How is something optional when EVERY player is doing it? Last edited by And1111#6139 on Apr 19, 2016, 3:30:26 AM
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" Every player will do Atziri, because I said so. (???) More - Quicksilver flask quest is optional (click and read - Required: No), yet everyone is doing it. Why? Because the reward is worth it. Even more - skill points quests are optional (these affect your character, just like Ascendancy Classes). Everyone on their right mind will do them, because they are TRIVIAL compared to how much rewards they give. This does not mean the are obligatory! Goddamnit people, how hard is to understand what optional means. I'm not arguing that there should be no changes to the Lab, but for once, can we not change the definition of optional? Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. Last edited by Perq#4049 on Apr 19, 2016, 3:39:21 AM
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"I have to kill Malachai to progress, I don't like Malachai, remove buabuabuabua"
Is the same type of argument. Just replace Malachai, Lab etc. with whatever arbitrary part of the game you don't like. The difference is that Malachai is obligatory, lab is not, so at least you got an option. They should fix builds with problems with the lab (LL, etc.) but there will be always builds which outperform others in some task, but that's about it (maybe remove trials after you have done them once per league). |
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" No, you are the one who doesn't seem to understand the concept of optional. This is an Arpg, you can't simply say it's optional because you don't need it to get to level 100, or to do Atziri. You can do Atziri with 1 health, does that make every other other point of health optional? What about your gear? You don't need any to make it to level 100, so it's optional? This genre is not set by the markers you named. A rpg by nature is about maxing out the potential your char has. The ascendancy is such a huge part in it, it is way beyond optional. It's as silly as saying some of the story skillpoints are optional. @OP I understand what you are saying. I still made as many alts as i usually do, probably ran lab 20+ times easily with different chars even though i think it's silly. The lab concept is not bad though and i hope GGG uses their magic touch to make it a deserved part of the game. However it's not helped by the fact that the game was to long to begin with, and now is just to much for a lot of players. Last edited by Miská#0911 on Apr 19, 2016, 3:45:49 AM
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" ... They are fucking optional. Wtf? Ok, I'm done here, just keep on inventing your own definitions. Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
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