Labyrinth has killed any motivation to make new characters for me.

Hi everyone, I've removed some personal attacks and other hostile comments from this thread. Intense discussion is welcome but please be respectful of others, thanks!

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lol, every time my 3*3 bullshit bingo triggers, a mod steps in.
what terms did you choose, eben?
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Last edited by vio#1992 on Apr 20, 2016, 7:31:22 AM
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Eben_GGG wrote:
Hi everyone, I've removed some personal attacks and other hostile comments from this thread. Intense discussion is welcome but please be respectful of others, thanks!


No you haven't, lol. You just edited only my post (again). I'm starting to be a little annoyed that when I make a joke, it is removed ASAP, but this dude can go around and make fun of people, make passive-aggressive comments and even go as far as using some interesting xenophobic slurs, yet nothing is done about it. For some 20+ pages now, all this thread does is spitting poison at anyone, without actually discussing anything.

This is why I asked why this thing is not closed yet.

PS. Your sig made me a little less angry, tho. Lol. Doesn't mean I don't think this is a kind of a bull.
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Last edited by Perq#4049 on Apr 20, 2016, 7:39:18 AM
If Ascendancy Points are optional because they are not needed to complete the story and get to Act 4 Merciless then almost everything else in the game is optional, e.g., using weapons, shields, chests, helms, boots, gloves, using all passive skill points, keystone skill points, rares, uniques. Which means to me that we have then defined the word "optional" to have no significant meaning anymore in PoE.

In my opinion, I agree with the OP. Labyrinth is boring tedious and not fun. Note that I did not say too hard or difficult because it is NOT too hard or difficult. It is boring tedious and not fun. Other people that like labyrinth are wonderful, lucky, intelligent, good looking and blessed but sorry some of us just find the labyrinth boring tedious and not fun.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Turtledove wrote:
If Ascendancy Points are optional because they are not needed to complete the story and get to Act 4 Merciless then almost everything else in the game is optional, e.g., using weapons, shields, chests, helms, boots, gloves, using all passive skill points, keystone skill points, rares, uniques. Which means to me that we have then defined the word "optional" to have no significant meaning anymore in PoE.


Lets take another bite then.
Is killing Piety in Act 3 Normal required to reach maps. Yes it is. The rest, I leave to you. We're talking about game area path and choices, and not gear choices.

Again, if you want to use gear as an example, Atziri is not optional, because she drops good gear. I was hoping we made this distinction at this point. :V

Ps. Playing PoE is also optional. *wink wink* ;)
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oh.. the same guys still trying to make the water to flow up shouting

lab is here to stay, ggg consider it now a core part of the game - issue they see (because some guys asking for free handouts is NOT an issue) is that new players have worse access to layout information (merc lab map is available via reddit, norm/cruel - are not)

people that grind maps for 200 hours+ complaining that they cannot 'force' themselves to 20 minutes per character wont be taken seriously by anyone.

man up, 'slog' trough it and enjoy the rewards.

if you do not want to work for something do not expect it be given to you if you whine for long enough. this is not how the life works.

btw - i regularly check profiles of 'lab-haters' and oh boy some of these builds are just nerve-wrecking.
it is the leveling that kills your motivation, lab just pushes you over the Ledge ;D

can't wait for act 5 and removal of one difficulty
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Last edited by PyleWarlord#7248 on Apr 20, 2016, 9:03:38 AM
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sidtherat wrote:
oh.. the same guys still trying to make the water to flow up shouting

lab is here to stay, ggg consider it now a core part of the game - issue they see (because some guys asking for free handouts is NOT an issue) is that new players have worse access to layout information (merc lab map is available via reddit, norm/cruel - are not)

people that grind maps for 200 hours+ complaining that they cannot 'force' themselves to 20 minutes per character wont be taken seriously by anyone.

man up, 'slog' trough it and enjoy the rewards.

if you do not want to work for something do not expect it be given to you if you whine for long enough. this is not how the life works.

btw - i regularly check profiles of 'lab-haters' and oh boy some of these builds are just nerve-wrecking.


we just like singing in the rain

lab is ready to go, ggg has seen a lot of negative feedback and most certainly considers adding alternative options

people that grind maps for 200 hours+ do it because they either want a high level char or they don't wanna reroll because it's boring, tedious and not fun

wise up, understand that lab lovers lose nothing with the proposed changes.

if you do not want to have fun in a game and would rather work in it then better work in real life. more profitable.

btw - i regularly check profiles of 'lab-lovers' and oh boy most of them are standard-heroes
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Last edited by Pyrokar#6587 on Apr 20, 2016, 10:57:36 AM
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PyleWarlord wrote:
it is the leveling that kills your motivation, lab just pushes you over the Ledge ;D

can't wait for act 5 and removal of one difficulty


Yeah, but enhancement rng system shotgun after you dropped, its last hit.
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Pyrokar wrote:

btw - i regularly check profiles of 'lab-lovers' and oh boy most of them are standard-heroes


Checking the profiles of lab-lovers myself and I've concluded that they are wonderful, wise, intelligent, and generally very good people that enjoy playing PoE.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!

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