SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Ehrmannii wrote:

To be onest... lab is something that stopped me from playing this game...

Ehrmannii, thank you for voicing your opinion on the labyrinth. I've added your name to the list of people that have voiced a similar opinion, now at 918 names. Over 330 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 910 posters in support

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Ehrmannii, I too stopped playing PoE because of labyrinth. However, my understanding is that PoE 3.0 has significantly reduced the traps in the first two labs. I will try PoE again to see if it is now better than Grim Dawn and Diablo 3 again after this partial fix to the problem.

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mezmery wrote:

flame cannons and some cleavers pretty much oneshot at higher grifts.

Lol
I do not notice them most of the time.
Stop delude yourself
BTW In D3 those "traps" were long before the lab was even created so your theory is double bullshit...

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Nishrek wrote:

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mezmery wrote:

flame cannons and some cleavers pretty much oneshot at higher grifts.

Lol
I do not notice them most of the time.
Stop delude yourself
BTW In D3 those "traps" were long before the lab was even created so your theory is double bullshit...

so casual traps are okay?
seems you are just bad, same way as turtle.

PS and ggg cares about feedback, as we saw with charges. it doesnt care about unskilled baddies with potatos and stone age internet connection that cant prove any single point though

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mezmery wrote:

so casual traps are okay?

Lol.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=False+analogy
Traps in D3 are only a bit different scenery (and are present on few tilesets from many), in most rifts you do not even find them. In PoE it is an important part when building a character.
Do you not see a difference between one "trap-like" item met once in blue moon and whole platform subgame?
I give you a hint here. In D3 you do not even break the flow of the game. If you meet them at all, of course. You may play a million rifts and you won't see any "trap".

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Nishrek wrote:

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mezmery wrote:

so casual traps are okay?

Lol.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=False+analogy
Traps in D3 are only a bit different scenery (and are present on few tilesets from many), in most rifts you do not even find them. In PoE it is an important part when building a character.
Do you not see a difference between one "trap-like" item met once in blue moon and whole platform subgame?
I give you a hint here. In D3 you do not even break the flow of the game. If you meet them at all, of course. You may play a million rifts and you won't see any "trap".

And?

In poe the traps are limited to certain scenarios as well, including in some maps. How you overcome a challenge says a lot about you and your characters and the QQ post complaining about them says you are not receptive to overcoming a challenge.

Traps here and there is just part of the scenery, areas to avoid when positioning in order to kill-monsters-get-loot game play. Screens full of traps and no monsters is NOT kill-monsters-get-loot game play no matter what deluded ramblings are being claimed. Screens full of traps and no monsters IS jump-here-run-there game play even when that content is in an arpg.

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Nishrek wrote:

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mezmery wrote:

so casual traps are okay?

Lol.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=False+analogy
Traps in D3 are only a bit different scenery (and are present on few tilesets from many), in most rifts you do not even find them. In PoE it is an important part when building a character.
Do you not see a difference between one "trap-like" item met once in blue moon and whole platform subgame?
I give you a hint here. In D3 you do not even break the flow of the game. If you meet them at all, of course. You may play a million rifts and you won't see any "trap".

That bolded part is just untrue, also even in the lab you rarely encounter traps, it's not even a whole subgame. If you want to just do all 4 labs and never go back you're in for about a whole 5 minutes of traps per character, and that's being generous, and not counting the reduced labs in 3.0.

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j33bus wrote:

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Nishrek wrote:

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mezmery wrote:

so casual traps are okay?

Lol.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=False+analogy
Traps in D3 are only a bit different scenery (and are present on few tilesets from many), in most rifts you do not even find them. In PoE it is an important part when building a character.
Do you not see a difference between one "trap-like" item met once in blue moon and whole platform subgame?
I give you a hint here. In D3 you do not even break the flow of the game. If you meet them at all, of course. You may play a million rifts and you won't see any "trap".

That bolded part is just untrue, also even in the lab you rarely encounter traps, it's not even a whole subgame. If you want to just do all 4 labs and never go back you're in for about a whole 5 minutes of traps per character, and that's being generous.

The only 5 minutes of eating shit in order to eat your big delicious meal is a good argument depending on how much the person dislikes eating shit.

Well it's not like you need to do the lab at all, the game still isn't balanced around having an ascendancy class. So the metaphor is really

"five minutes of eating what you think is shit, but is actually just some other food, because you saw someone else do it and get the delicious meal."

and that more accurate metaphor is how this whole game works, I eat the shit of not mapping because i want to do that.

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goetzjam wrote:

And?

Ask the guy who uses D3 as an argument, not me.

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goetzjam wrote:

In poe the traps are limited to certain scenarios as well, including in some maps

I explain it simple (especially for you). In D3 you may not meet a trap, even if you would look for them. In PoE content is gated behind them.

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j33bus wrote:

Well it's not like you need to do the lab at all, the game still isn't balanced around having an ascendancy class.

Wrong. Chris Wilson himself said that he considers AP as mandatory, so they are balancing the game around them.