SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Fruz wrote:

If you want to play d2 ... then go play d2.
This isn't a d2 forum here.

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Fruz wrote:

I don't think that anybody said anything about "not being allowed to just dislike something" at all.
However, all those players crying rivers and insulting devs and players alike, about something that they clearly lack knowledge of, spending that much time here, just because they "dislike" it ? About a video game ?

There are people that just say that they dislike it, give their reason, and then either discuss a bit and/or leave after having given their feedback.
There are people raging, throwing tantrums, in obnoxious ways, that is different, likely for different reasons.



And no, the circle jerking here has been there from the start, with or without people pointing out all the flaws and silliness that has been thrown by the whiners.

And what is your purpose here ?
Haven't you said what you came here to say ? Or are you going to say that actual discussions (still) happen in this thread ? Because that's not what has been happening, for a very long time.
And it's not what you're doing now either.

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Phrazz wrote:

Insulting the devs? While some might have done that, again, I think they are very capable of handling it, speaking for themselves or - ignoring it.

The thing is, some people debate out of emotions. They actually feel that this content has destroyed their favorite game. They are sad. Mad, even. A game, a hobby that they have dedicated so many hours (and maybe money on) ruined by something. And when these emotional creatures are being met with "LIAR" and "VIDEO PROOF"? Of course they will go into a defensive mode - and we all know how that can turn out.

When you like something as much as some people like their favorite video game, they just don't quit and give up. They will "defend" their game. And in some eyes, ridding the lab from the face of the earth IS "defending" PoE.

But I am making my peace now. I've said what I came here to say. I just find it hard to stay away when I see the same BS arguments and "I am better than you in everything, you suck, that's why you don't like the lab"-arguments. They are a very CLEAR sign of people not understanding something. Human nature 101.

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raics wrote:

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Phrazz wrote:

The thing is, some people debate out of emotions. They actually feel that this content has destroyed their favorite game.

Destroyed, ruined, powerful words, they carry a lot of emotion. As with all grand causes, some probably do feel that way, yes, and some just pretend that is the case to push their agenda.

I wonder, if the feeling is genuine, isn't trying to explain that it's not the end of the world and that it's still the same old PoE we know and love actually a good deed?

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Turtledove wrote:

You're the one that keeps talking about trap difficulty despite everyone telling you that they think the traps difficulty is not the issue.

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Zalhan2 wrote:

This used to be the next evolution of d2. Now it's the half evolution of d2 and half path of frogger. Thanks for pointing out that the game is less good now. I am glad we agree.

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Fruz wrote:

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Phrazz wrote:

Insulting the devs? While some might have done that, again, I think they are very capable of handling it, speaking for themselves or - ignoring it.

The thing is, some people debate out of emotions. They actually feel that this content has destroyed their favorite game. They are sad. Mad, even. A game, a hobby that they have dedicated so many hours (and maybe money on) ruined by something. And when these emotional creatures are being met with "LIAR" and "VIDEO PROOF"? Of course they will go into a defensive mode - and we all know how that can turn out.

When you like something as much as some people like their favorite video game, they just don't quit and give up. They will "defend" their game. And in some eyes, ridding the lab from the face of the earth IS "defending" PoE.

But I am making my peace now. I've said what I came here to say. I just find it hard to stay away when I see the same BS arguments and "I am better than you in everything, you suck, that's why you don't like the lab"-arguments. They are a very CLEAR sign of people not understanding something. Human nature 101.

Sure, they are most likely ignoring it, I was just saying that it goes beyond just "disliking" something here for many, imho.
The "defensive mode" has been here from the start for most, as soon as somebody said that they disagreed with them, not necessarily vehemently imo.

And I find hard to not answer to some here, probably the same way you find it hard to stay away in some cases there.
I should have done long ago from here instead of keeping feeding some trolls.
Once in a while, there is a piece of discussion that can be somewhat interesting, before being derailed completely quite quickly.

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raics wrote:

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Phrazz wrote:

The thing is, some people debate out of emotions. They actually feel that this content has destroyed their favorite game.

Destroyed, ruined, powerful words, they carry a lot of emotion. As with all grand causes, some probably do feel that way, yes, and some just pretend that is the case to push their agenda.

I wonder, if the feeling is genuine, isn't trying to explain that it's not the end of the world and that it's still the same old PoE we know and love actually a good deed?

And that it's just a video game ?
First world problems indeed.

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Turtledove wrote:

You're the one that keeps talking about trap difficulty despite everyone telling you that they think the traps difficulty is not the issue.

We know what you have been saying, and it does not change anything.

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Zalhan2 wrote:

This used to be the next evolution of d2. Now it's the half evolution of d2 and half path of frogger. Thanks for pointing out that the game is less good now. I am glad we agree.

No.
This is PoE, and it has always been PoE, end of the story.
If you want to play d2, go play d2, period.
And you have been one of the posters with the most obnoxious messages here, don't think that you're fooling anybody lol.

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Zalhan2 wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

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Zalhan2 wrote:

This used to be the next evolution of d2. Now it's the half evolution of d2 and half path of frogger. Thanks for pointing out that the game is less good now. I am glad we agree.

No.
This is PoE, and it has always been PoE, end of the story.
If you want to play d2, go play d2, period.
And you have been one of the posters with the most obnoxious messages here, don't think that you're fooling anybody lol.

I assume you are also all in on the next version of Mass Effect being a game where you just garden. Because that is what the Lab is to what was POE of old before they made it a platform game.

You know when the playstyle was a direct evolution of Diablo 2 and was great instead of mixed.

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Fruz wrote:

It has similarities.
But it's a different game.
Deal with it.