SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Turtledove wrote:

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Xavathos wrote:

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TD is only having a discussion, just so happens to be on the opposite side. You on the other hand are sacrificing your account and actively boycotting the game.

As I said, I don't understand your motive or your goal in all this. But it's not about me. What are you trying to achieve with this? How is it helping you to do these things?

It's very simple. It's what all of us want, a fun game. Although some pro-lab people have claimed they are here for the salty tears? Not sure what you mean by asserting that The_Reporter is actively boycotting the game? He plays the game. I'm the one that currently finds D3 more fun than PoE due to the labyrinth. The_Reporter is currently playing PoE.

He had GGG delete his account, or so he claims. No refunds.

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LanPirot wrote:

Well, I got also a nice analogy : The lab tastes like to much salt in the soup.

We already heard the one with salty soup, I'd give it 4/10 overall.

And no need to get carried away, if was just a 'what if', what if we were meant to hate the lab to an extent and they've misjudged it a bit. If it was indeed the case... yeah, I understand the lack of such elements in modern games and playing it safe would be a better approach from the business standpoint but, you know, they would still have my respect for the cojones, if nothing else.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Xavathos wrote:

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TD is only having a discussion, just so happens to be on the opposite side. You on the other hand are sacrificing your account and actively boycotting the game.

As I said, I don't understand your motive or your goal in all this. But it's not about me. What are you trying to achieve with this? How is it helping you to do these things?

It's very simple. It's what all of us want, a fun game. Although some pro-lab people have claimed they are here for the salty tears? Not sure what you mean by asserting that The_Reporter is actively boycotting the game? He plays the game. I'm the one that currently finds D3 more fun than PoE due to the labyrinth. The_Reporter is currently playing PoE.

I am not boycotting the game. I will try the new expansion and probably emo spiral again. Fair is fair, i'll give it a shot.

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Zalhan2 wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

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Xavathos wrote:

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TD is only having a discussion, just so happens to be on the opposite side. You on the other hand are sacrificing your account and actively boycotting the game.

As I said, I don't understand your motive or your goal in all this. But it's not about me. What are you trying to achieve with this? How is it helping you to do these things?

It's very simple. It's what all of us want, a fun game. Although some pro-lab people have claimed they are here for the salty tears? Not sure what you mean by asserting that The_Reporter is actively boycotting the game? He plays the game. I'm the one that currently finds D3 more fun than PoE due to the labyrinth. The_Reporter is currently playing PoE.

I am not boycotting the game. I will try the new expansion and probably emo spiral again. Fair is fair, i'll give it a shot.

The way you feel the need to reply about something directly as if it was aimed at you, that was literally about someone else personally, is disturbing to say the least.

Besides, I didn't say what he did was wrong or right, his reasons are his own. I was only trying to understand, because I clearly do not.

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The_Reporter wrote:

That's how a proper protest is done, IMO. There were other reasons, but all stemmed from stating my displeasure about the poorly done labyrinth/trials. The "vocal minority" thing was the straw that broke this camel's back. (And sealed the camel's wallet) ;)

Protesting, I get that. Closing your wallet, I get that. Having them delete your multiple supporter pack account without a refund, I don't get that. It's like protesting against driving being bad for the environment by publicly burning your own car. You don't cause damage to anything but yourself. You're down 1 car and walking to work from now on. That'll... show.. them? Help me understand.

Clearly if you hate the Lab you don't deserve to play POE.

This opinion shows a severe lack of empathy or a high degree of trolling.
Probably the latter.

Note: even people who feel the game is fine as it is aren't supporting his view.

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The_Reporter wrote:

You can't understand. The way you attack others constantly proves you cannot.

I'm on a different level, dude.

How am I attacking anyone? Is disagreeing now attacking someone too? Is asking questions attacking someone? If that's the case, I'm one aggressive SoB, for sure. I've spent 5 years in university attacking people then.

The fact that I'm genuinely trying to understand you and you're accusing me of this, says more about you than it does about me.

I truly regret that you once again have to resort to this and force me to remain unable to understand you, despite my efforts.

Just ... don't take his bait, as obvious as they are.

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Xtreemer wrote:

i like the lab it offer something else to do beside mapping

Good for you and the rest in that group now please can you answer the following? (the rest of the same group too)

GGG answer the question yourself.

How any addition/change/rework in the ascencion method - while keeping it as an option also in the labyrinth - will have any negative effect in anyone's gameplay/personal experience?

Almost two years and there is still no answer to this (laughable claims and vague statements dont count and dont even deserve this game - same applies to those who give them). And do you know why there is no solid argument to this? Cause it simply will have zero effect to a large amount of the current players' experience and a POSITIVE one to the veterans of ARPG genre and the original PoE lovers, besides the lab carries. And since even the lab-lovers dont like the lab carry situation (or even consider it mandatory for support builds that suggestions in the op solve that too), we are left with zero negatives for such an implementation/change.

I double dare everyone who likes the lab even in the slightest to answer this question with honesty. And in the process realize themselves that they are either completely and utterly acting with self-interest, full of delusional idiocy, simply blissful ignorance or they have been lying all this time to themselves and they actually AGREE WITH AT LEAST ONE (if not more) SUGGESTION FROM THE OP.

Same applies to you GGG employees and developers, give an answer and then give us also a rough estimation of how much money you need for any of the suggestions to be implemented. Hell put a "i want ascendancy points re-allocated MTX in the shop" and i bet you it would be the fastest and biggest selling mtx in your collection.