Feedback and Suggestions (Path of Exile 1) - SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas] - Forum

" Xavathos wrote: " The_Reporter wrote: 99% wouldn't go in there if it weren't for ascendancy points. Even with the over the top loot & enchant possibility at the end. Because the design and execution is garbage level. Ah, there's our senior statistics analyst. I missed you and your numbers, bro. Never had I thought it was this easy to be part of the 1%! What have I been doing all my life? Of course YOU like it. That's why GGG needs to toughen it up. Each instance needs to be random. No more free passes for you low effort guys. @ raics: Fine, 95-99%	Posted by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017, 10:07:09 AM
" The_Reporter wrote: " Xavathos wrote: " The_Reporter wrote: 99% wouldn't go in there if it weren't for ascendancy points. Even with the over the top loot & enchant possibility at the end. Because the design and execution is garbage level. Ah, there's our senior statistics analyst. I missed you and your numbers, bro. Never had I thought it was this easy to be part of the 1%! What have I been doing all my life? Of course YOU like it. That's why GGG needs to toughen it up. Each instance needs to be random. No more free passes for you low effort guys. @ raics: Fine, 95-99% I giggled. :P Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done. Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more. 'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league. Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.	Posted by Xavathos#5130 on Jun 15, 2017, 10:10:58 AM Quote this Post
" The_Reporter wrote: @ raics: Fine, 95-99% Ah, the autofail roll? Sure, we can go with that, autofail can't fail. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs. ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/balancedux]► ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1]►	Posted by raics#7540 on Jun 15, 2017, 10:23:56 AM Quote this Post
So how are you guys coping with the No-Poe-Cause-Lab-Sucks feeling? I have my sights on Wolcen and i wonder if the previously mentioned feelings makes it look better than it really is. Thinking of buying into their early access. I'm a forum warrior, i was born to post, raised to defend my league. Now my post has been removed, chained and exiled by mods who Ban. Ban is my brother; i do not fear it. I see it in the eyes of men and beasts that i troll. It will take me to play the actual game when i am ready and i am not ready.	Posted by Pyrokar#6587 on Jun 15, 2017, 10:40:20 AM Quote this Post
" Nishrek wrote: [...] Ok, just this one time I'm going to state the obvious, just for your. What is egoistic about you, is the fact that you want to change the game because you don't care about its roleplay, where the game is already what it is and many people play it, and many people like this roleplay. And you want to change something very basic of a widely played game just because you don't like it. That's egoistic. And you can't always try to say "it's without context duh !" to try to hide the fact that you have actually nothing to say, especially when there is a context : You clearly, and obviously implied that because of a specific game ( that is not even tagged a single time as "arcade" one of the most used shared encyclopedia of the world ) that they took inspiration from, the Labyrinth was an "arcade" thing. There is your context, there is your fallacy, there is where you just threw something that you had no clue about, and that's what I was pointing out. " Nishrek wrote: Of course, I can. That's the way statistics works. That's how people that don't know how statistics actually work think it does. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.	Posted by Fruz#6137 on Jun 15, 2017, 10:47:58 AM Quote this Post
" Fruz wrote: You clearly, and obviously implied that because of a specific game ( that is not even tagged a single time as "arcade" one of the most used shared encyclopedia of the world ) that they took inspiration from, the Labyrinth was an "arcade" thing. Besides, they've just put some traps in the game, PoE didn't really acquire any properties of an arcade game it didn't have before, if a game has trap dodging it doesn't mean it's an arcade game. What PoE has is similar to the way they incorporated some gearing elements typical of role playing games into Call of Duty multiplayer and it's still as much a role playing game as I'm a dead US president. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs. ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/balancedux]► ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1]►	Posted by raics#7540 on Jun 15, 2017, 11:09:17 AM Quote this Post
" Xavathos wrote: " Nishrek wrote: Have a cookie. Now check the word "Arcade" Sweet, thanks! I love cookies. :D " Nishrek wrote: Sometimes a company has to swallow the pride and admit they've made an error. That's the way it is. Good developers should've been able to do that. Yes, this requires some balls, especially with such big problem. But being stubborn, and ignoring the feedback is the sign of vanity, not vision and passion. I couldn't agree more! That's absolutely true. Now... please point me to a valid source that states the Lab is an error? The makers of the Yogo thought it was a good car and defended it to the bitter end.	Posted by Zalhan2#1986 on Jun 15, 2017, 11:10:47 AM Quote this Post
" Fruz wrote: What is egoistic about you, is the fact that you want to change the game because you don't care about its roleplay Nice that you do know better than me what I do care for " Fruz wrote: And you want to change something very basic of a widely played game just because you don't like it. Because lab contains all roleplay aspects in PoE, sure. Without lab there will be no roleplay elements in PoE... Talk about fallacies Oh, please enlighten me what is lore explanation of the fact that Vagan can summon dummies from thin air? " Fruz wrote: You clearly, and obviously implied that because of a specific game ( that is not even tagged a single time as "arcade" one of the most used shared encyclopedia of the world ) that they took inspiration from, the Labyrinth was an "arcade" thing. Yeah, the fact that both lab and PoP have identical gameplay elements is less important, how they are labeled. " Fruz wrote: " Nishrek wrote: Of course, I can. That's the way statistics works. That's how people that don't know how statistics actually work think it does. Quote from one of the most used shared encyclopedia of the world, just or you Statistics is a branch of mathematics dealing with the collection, analysis, interpretation, presentation, and organization of data "War's over, soldier. You just don't know it yet. Everybody lost." Last edited by Nishrek#6401 on Jun 15, 2017, 11:17:08 AM	Posted by Nishrek#6401 on Jun 15, 2017, 11:16:23 AM Quote this Post
" raics wrote: " Nishrek wrote: " Xavathos wrote: Good, because they're not your priorities to set in the first place. Nor yours. Now wait a sec, that isn't the same because we aren't telling those that do assign those priorities what to do or claiming that adjusting the lore is easy or hard. What we do know from prior experience is they don't have a habit of changing significant lore elements unless a major expansion requires it. Who knows, maybe it's easy and they don't want to do it and might be that they don't mind it but it's a pain in the butt. " The_Reporter wrote: 99% wouldn't go in there if it weren't for ascendancy points. Even with the over the top loot & enchant possibility at the end. Because the design and execution is garbage level. You shouldn't casually toss around hard numbers, especially not big ones, those are too easy to debunk. I personally like it as a way to gain ascendancy, not as a farming ground but I'd say it does get a fair deal of casual farming done. You can see it on streams, I get 'dnd, farming' lab often enough when trading and got some buddies that do it regularly, seems plausible even if I didn't trust the numbers from GGG. The problem with the lab is it's a specialized farming area, similar to Atziri, you don't need a special setup to complete it but you need one to farm it fast and reliable, it's no dried lake or shaped strand. The issue isn't language or grammar errors or what the exact (vs ballpark) % of people who hate it. Many people hate other features but very few are this polarizing a year after it was released. Polarizing your base and making people quit is never good for a game. Even if you spend a lot of money on that feature that's not arpg like.	Posted by Zalhan2#1986 on Jun 15, 2017, 11:17:19 AM Quote this Post
" Zalhan2 wrote: The makers of the Yogo thought it was a good car and defended it to the bitter end. Yugo, right, got a story about that too, it's supposed to be a true one :) On a public speech occasions, an executive of Zastava motors was heard saying: "See, those crazy Germans for instance? They're just pushing them out one after the other, WW Golf one, two, three... they have no idea how to make a good, solid car right off the bat like us". It remained unknown if he was joking or not. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs. ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/balancedux]► ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1]►	Posted by raics#7540 on Jun 15, 2017, 11:20:59 AM Quote this Post