SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Fruz wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

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So reading comprehension it is, I guess ....
I bolded the important element that you have been trying to avoid :

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Zalhan2 wrote:

No offense but this game used to be fun and now I think it isn't, is not opinion, it's a fact

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Fruz wrote:

insulted ? Oo what is it now lol ?


lol, really.

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TheFearlessOne wrote:

To be honest, i was never the guy who run uberlab for profit or smthin.
I most often just run it once, to get the ascendancies and thats it.
BUT i think the lab is brilliant.
Its one of the things which have really high reward (accendancies) while being deadly if you are not focused enough.
For me it is one of the last things i feel nervous about when i consider to do and also the last thing i really feel so uncertain about, i always overlevel it hard. (well, normal + cruel and merci is a piece of cake since the traps are mostly avoidable).
And ye, maybe its not your simple arpg mechanic they put in it but thats cool with me. Accendancy points, while being pretty strong, arent necessary aslong as you dont build ur char around some of those points. Furthermore in nearly all good offline RPG you could get Top tier items by playing a side-mini game. (Playing cards or pinball and such in FF / Casino games like black jack in Fable)
Also when you see others running it 24/7 in hardcore then you might think: Heey, maybe its more skill based than i thought? And thats actually pretty good.

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mezmery wrote:

so you cry about this game being casual and still want to remove the only hardcore part of it that isnt prone to power creep - labyrinth?
it also provides the only steady stream of currency besides item flip and craft.

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The_Reporter wrote:

It's not skill based.

Many lab aficionados are quick to point out how simply it is conquered by running through with the correct pots, build and gear.

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diablofdb wrote:

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TheFearlessOne wrote:

To be honest, i was never the guy who run uberlab for profit or smthin.
I most often just run it once, to get the ascendancies and thats it.
BUT i think the lab is brilliant.
Its one of the things which have really high reward (accendancies) while being deadly if you are not focused enough.
For me it is one of the last things i feel nervous about when i consider to do and also the last thing i really feel so uncertain about, i always overlevel it hard. (well, normal + cruel and merci is a piece of cake since the traps are mostly avoidable).
And ye, maybe its not your simple arpg mechanic they put in it but thats cool with me. Accendancy points, while being pretty strong, arent necessary aslong as you dont build ur char around some of those points. Furthermore in nearly all good offline RPG you could get Top tier items by playing a side-mini game. (Playing cards or pinball and such in FF / Casino games like black jack in Fable)
Also when you see others running it 24/7 in hardcore then you might think: Heey, maybe its more skill based than i thought? And thats actually pretty good.

+1

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Zalhan2 wrote:

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The_Reporter wrote:

It's not skill based.

Many lab aficionados are quick to point out how simply it is conquered by running through with the correct pots, build and gear.

That's the point. Fuck anyone who differs in opinion. Its their game for them not anyone else.