SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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raics wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

I never claimed that thinking something made it a fact. I claimed that it was a fact that he was thinking that PoE was not fun.

What's the point of saying so? Nobody said he was trolling.

It's more pointing out that when a large group of people share an opinion about a feature that may or may not be bad, their opinion matters.

You do not have the right to tell them they do not feel this way.
You do have the right to point out why they are missing the point, if you can do a decent job of defending your opinion.
You do have the right to tell them maybe they should stop playing if they are not enjoying the game.

Again Captain Obvious can figure this stuff out.

I highly intelligent defendable opinion I share is still not a fact :)

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Zalhan2 wrote:

It's more pointing out that when a large group of people share an opinion about a feature that may or may not be bad, their opinion matters.

Again, you and anyone that doesn't like lab were called neither trolls nor delusional. The whole thing was a misunderstanding because your post could be interpreted as a claim that PoE is less fun now no matter who you ask, including Chris and his wife.

Sure, it was obvious enough that you weren't making a preposterous claim like that but it was a good opportunity to play a little grammar nazi, I suppose.

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Turtledove wrote:

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So reading comprehension it is, I guess ....
I bolded the important element that you have been trying to avoid :

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Zalhan2 wrote:

No offense but this game used to be fun and now I think it isn't, is not opinion, it's a fact

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j33bus wrote:

Technically what he said was true, but following it with "it's not an opinion, it's a fact" is extremely weird sentence structure. Best case scenario it's just poorly written, worst case scenario it's being intentionally baity by saying "my opinions is this, and that's a fact, not an opinion" because seriously who talks like that?

Exactly

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Turtledove wrote:

I can't really disagree with this being an awkward sentence structure

Not just akward, simply incorrect.
Like this other one now :

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Zalhan2 wrote:

I highly intelligent defendable opinion I share is still not a fact :)

Now those 2 last pages are a perfect illustration of what there is still to say on the subject :
nothing.

Everybody move on please ?
:/

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Fruz wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

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So reading comprehension it is, I guess ....
I bolded the important element that you have been trying to avoid :

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Zalhan2 wrote:

No offense but this game used to be fun and now I think it isn't, is not opinion, it's a fact

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j33bus wrote:

Technically what he said was true, but following it with "it's not an opinion, it's a fact" is extremely weird sentence structure. Best case scenario it's just poorly written, worst case scenario it's being intentionally baity by saying "my opinions is this, and that's a fact, not an opinion" because seriously who talks like that?

Exactly

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Turtledove wrote:

I can't really disagree with this being an awkward sentence structure

Not just akward, simply incorrect.
Like this other one now :

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Zalhan2 wrote:

I highly intelligent defendable opinion I share is still not a fact :)

Now those 2 last pages are a perfect illustration of what there is still to say on the subject :
nothing.

Everybody move on please ?
:/

We would but people keep making fun posts.

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The_Reporter wrote:

It's a fact that PoE is crappier since the introduction of labyrinth + trials. We all know it and GGG knows it too.

But for heaven sake, lighten up! It's only a (formerly great and much worse now) game!

player base beating records
nice try though.

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The_Reporter wrote:

And even if they weren't, a larger player base doesn't mean the game is any better from a quality/design perspective.

That can be interpreted in many ways, for a game that's been around for so long and stands out so much in the genre that isn't exactly crowded we can't really say it's gaining recognition because you'd have to be living under a rock. Maybe it's been getting more accessible? Maybe more mainstreamy? Even if it's getting worse from a critic standpoint if more people enjoy it can we say it isn't 'more fun'?

What exactly makes a game or a movie 'more fun'? Is it how exciting it is? Maybe how good you're feeling during it, how about afterwards? Is it how well the work absorbs you into its world or how much it engages your mind? Is it 'more fun' if it touches fewer people on a deeper level or a lot of people more lightly?

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The_Reporter wrote:

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mezmery wrote:

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The_Reporter wrote:

It's a fact that PoE is crappier since the introduction of labyrinth + trials. We all know it and GGG knows it too.

But for heaven sake, lighten up! It's only a (formerly great and much worse now) game!

player base beating records
nice try though.

Most are bot accounts.

And even if they weren't, a larger player base doesn't mean the game is any better from a quality/design perspective.

so you cry about this game being casual and still want to remove the only hardcore part of it that isnt prone to power creep - labyrinth?
it also provides the only steady stream of currency besides item flip and craft.