SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Perhaps reveal your true identity?

He is batman and i am spooderman.

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Casual_Ascent wrote:

Going to Itzaro and getting a paid bosskill is no more difficult than going to Malachai/Dominus and getting a paid bosskill. It IS ABSOLUTELY more annoying and vomit inducing, because the Lab area is annoying and vomit inducing.

This is 100% false and you writing it just proves how you really have little to nothing to contribute to this discussion but incorrect assumptions and blatantly wrong information.

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Casual_Ascent wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

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IMSilver wrote:

If GGG reworked lab and ascendency, their profit and player retention will increase by 300%

believe it.

Says the guy with no supporter titles EleGiggle

What is this elegiggle thing you youngsters do?

Also, you do know that many choose to not display their supporter titles in the forum, right?

There are forum trolls that would rather attack people on personal grounds rather than discuss relevant topics.

If IMSilver had reported Goetzjam's post it probably would have been deleted.

wow that was alot of effort turtledove linking that many lab hate threads...nice one. Make POE great again...remove lab

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Prebornfetus wrote:

wow that was alot of effort turtledove linking that many lab hate threads...nice one. Make POE great again...remove lab

He clicked...

167 pages. Has GGG ever posted in this? Think they even noticed? Did at least one guy bring a memo to Chris saying hey I think we might have a problem related to ascend in lab?

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Prebornfetus wrote:

wow that was alot of effort turtledove linking that many lab hate threads...nice one. Make POE great again...remove lab

He clicked...

Spoiler

xD

The initial list that I put together around May 17 was based on the option. At that point I compiled a list somewhere around 25 or so threads. I then subsequently went back in the history of the Feedback and Suggestions forum to the end of March and worked backwards to about March 7. I would click on the thread and read the OP then, add it to the list or not then go on to the next thread. When I got to about March 7 I had to go and never went back to finishing up March, I also never looked at April and the first half of May.

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Pyrokar wrote:

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Perhaps reveal your true identity?

He is batman and i am spooderman.

As it was revealed in a previous post i am Batman. As for the spooderman fuck i pissed myself from laughing. "wit greit pauer kams greit risbonsipiliti"

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Prebornfetus wrote:

167 pages. Has GGG ever posted in this? Think they even noticed? Did at least one guy bring a memo to Chris saying hey I think we might have a problem related to ascend in lab?

They dont need to post here, and to be honest it wouldnt be proffesional to put themselves in a much heated "discusion". "Discussion" because only one side has the skills to add to it, while the majority of the other just sees and says imaginary things.

They are indeed aware of the problem, Chris specifically has received quite the number of complaints regarding the lab. GGG's policy (as it seems until now) is to ingore it, until it dies, which unless people are total fuckups isnt going to happen soon. They will eventually have to come up with a solution. Also @turtledove is the man, always delivering.

Everyone's favourite time, STATS TIME! Disclaimer : The only assumption in the following (and thus not a hard fact) is that the number of the players that use the standalone client is around 4times more from the one that uses steam client, for a total of 50k active users at the moment. That number is not totally random, i took account the number of subscribers in poe.youtube, views of popular youtubers that make poe content, averages in twitch.tv and then compared to that of other games whose total active player numbers are not a secret. Also google trends graphs as well as older reddit and forum speculation numbers.


4.1k players in the proSC lab ladder (merci + endgame)

630 players in proHC lab ladder (merci + endgame)

70% of endgame proHC ladder consists of juggernauts, on the top 100 the value is 85% juggernauts. The number of juggernauts in merci proHC lab ladder is around 40%.

Around 6k total people in lab ladders throughout ALL leagues.

Now comes the even funnier aspect of the stats :

Steam chart 10k players for path of exile. Most people play on standalone though right? lets say 4times more players use the standalone client. Making the total number of poe players 50k.

6/50 = 12% of the total playerbase actually are eligible for lab ladders. If we take that a step further thats about the number of players actually liking and/or withstanding the lab due to the rewards.

Now have in mind that from those eligible for the ladders there is at least a 10-15% that only does it for the Ascendancy Points. You can see how that is true if you have a look at the previous lab numbers and check that those who got their points in the start do not run it.


Those stats also go in perfect line with those GGG released in the perandus league : Labyrinth 6.0503%. Add to that those who run the endgame lab because its insanely profitable and you can actually see that the 12% is pretty close to that.

Were does that brings us? Worse numbers percentage-wise than those PvP seasons had (at least in the start).

Were does GGG stand ? Nobody knows, they even neglected every single inquiry about the labyrinth in the Q&A (both parts for fucks shake). GGG WAKE UP, IGNORING THE COMPLAINTS DOES NOT SOLVE THE ISSUE.

Here is a question directly to GGG devs. When will you make a manifesto post regarding the labyrinth? Were is the idea, development proccess, numbers, player retention etc for the thing you are so proud of? Almost five months in, and the only info about it that you released is the one from the 2nd week of perandus that showed how poorly it was received then. Are you still gonna so arrogantly ignore it? Are you ok with it killing a huge part of the game and the fun? A simple post about the whole thing and what future holds for it, the ascendancy points and us the players. Thank you in advance

EDIT : @prebornfetus i saw you made some lab suggestions, i hope you wont mind if i incorporate some of them into the opening post, credits will go to you ofcourse.