Donald Trump

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Xavderion wrote:

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SkyCore wrote:

Bah. I speak of illegal aliens, and the one time i dont fully qualify immigrant with 'illegal' you see it as an opening to show me how wrong i am. You are so desperate to propigate the memes youve learned in politics. It's truly a shame you cant step back and see it all the way i do. Ive tried. Is it my fault for not being an 'authority' so you will actually accept what i say? Is it my fault for not expressing the truth with enough conviction to MAKE you accept it? Is it my fault for not establishing a friendship so you dont automatically dismiss everything iv said? No, no, and no. You are just beyond hope.

But you're wrong, even the commie Bernie Sanders sees that. He says that immigration drives down wages so USA has to secure borders. He's literally on Trump's side there, just less media-baity.

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SkyCore wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

But you're wrong, even the commie Bernie Sanders sees that. He says that immigration drives down wages so USA has to secure borders. He's literally on Trump's side there, just less media-baity.

Its not about immigration. It's not about jobs. It's about blame. Blame and hate. It's about villainizing broad categories of people. Dehumanization. Perhaps i didnt make that clear enough.

It's a poisonous message. And i didnt think many people realize the extent of the repurcussions of internalizing it are. It is a disease of the soul.

The benefit of ALL of mankind should be the highest priority. This negative labeling of individuals (whom are not detrimental to the whole) is counter productive to this paramount goal. Our societal systems are fundamentally broken. We have enough food and space for everyone, but our capitalistic systems deny it... and the victims are blamed. The true fault lies at those whom cling to obsolete systems instead of changing the it. The future looks mighty grim as we approach a level of technological advancement in which labor is no longer needed. But it's even worse to NOT automate out of fear of destroying the social construct known as 'work'.

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Xavderion wrote:

In other news, the GOP just changed the 8 state rule regarding their brokered convention. Previously, a candidate had to win at least 8 states to be eligible at the convention. They removed that rule. They will try to steal the nomination from Trump no matter what. 30,000 Republicans signed a petition to allow guns at the convention. Shit will go down if the GOP actually steals it from Trump.

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NeroNoah wrote:

This is the kind of stuff that can't be solved without solid evidence. I've seen contradictory evidence though (so people are being fairly emotional about it to get good conclusions). Yet I would bet my leg and say that the dysfunctional immigration laws are what create this situation to begin with.

I'll repost this. It's a refutation of Trump's platform from an economic standpoint, it has links to many studies about immigration. Make conclusions about it.

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DalaiLama wrote:

The laws didn't cause the problem. The problem was already on its way 40 years ago, bur I'll let people figure out the root cause for themselves. (Most people won't like the answer).

The laws (and enforcement of them) can provide a solution. I have yet to read a "no problem exists" argument from anyone with their feet on the ground and involved in the issue. Being a mayor or other elected official in proximity to the problem doesn't guarantee that person has their feet in the ground anymore than living in proximity to Russia makes Sarah Palin a foreign policy expert.

Here's a hint: Real experts don't deny a problem exists, even when they disgree on the solution.

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Raycheetah wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

In other news, the GOP just changed the 8 state rule regarding their brokered convention. Previously, a candidate had to win at least 8 states to be eligible at the convention. They removed that rule. They will try to steal the nomination from Trump no matter what. 30,000 Republicans signed a petition to allow guns at the convention. Shit will go down if the GOP actually steals it from Trump.

Well crap. Link or citation, please? I'm surprised this hasn't already shown up on Drudge. =>[.]<=

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Xavderion wrote:

Here: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gop-insiders-nominee-wont-be-limited-to-winner-of-8-states/article/2586357

Not sure how legit that is, but apparently 2012 rules only count for 2012, where they used the 8 state rule to kill Ron Paul. Now that the rule would actually help Trump, they kill the rule.

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Raycheetah wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

Here: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gop-insiders-nominee-wont-be-limited-to-winner-of-8-states/article/2586357

Not sure how legit that is, but apparently 2012 rules only count for 2012, where they used the 8 state rule to kill Ron Paul. Now that the rule would actually help Trump, they kill the rule.

Well, you and I both know the GOP won't survive a nuclear war with their voting base. I hope it doesn't come to a contested convention, but if it does, things could get very messy. ='[.]'=

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Raycheetah wrote:

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solwitch wrote:

@Raycheetah

Women have been suppressed for far too long and men have had it way too easy. Men are the ones that create the drama. Name one female that conquered another civilization because of its riches? None... Not one. Granted we've had in history female rulers but if anything she was attacked first.

The following ladies would like a word with you:

Zenobia of Palmyra: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenobia#Invasions_of_Egypt_and_Anatolia

Semiramis of Babylon (famous for subjugating neighboring states): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiramis#Historical_figure

Tamar of Georgia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamar_of_Georgia#Foreign_policy_and_military_campaigns

And plenty enough others exist, if you care to do the research. A vagina is not an automatic grant of higher human nature. ='[.]'=