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" ScrotieMcB wrote: " Bars wrote: The Democrats are amateurs. The real Marxist is Trump, who does his best to promote capitalism and thus speeds up the progress of history to the point where capitalism will collapse under its own weight :P Decades ago, socialist Albert Einstein predicted how capitalism would collapse under its own weight and destroy democracy. To sum up his answer in two words: fake news. No really, he imagined powerful corporate interests gaining ever-increasing "control, directly or indirectly," over "the main sources of information (press, radio, education). It is thus extremely difficult, and indeed in most cases quite impossible, for the individual citizen to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of his political rights." (Source) Thing is, much like Hari Seldon couldn't predict the Mule, Marx et al couldn't predict the Internet. By taking the initiative, Al Gore saved us from fake news (such as "An Inconvenient Truth") and thus saved capitalism. The time of Marxist prophecy has came and went, with the prophecy unfulfilled: Clinton is not President. Sure, Scrotie. Keep telling that to yourself while the corporations are converging in a reverse mitosis and right now there are typically 2-3 corporations holding 90% of each sector. The number will be reduced to 1 (or 2 engaging in fake competition) relatively soon. And they will be one with the state, too. Trump is a symbol of this process and the tendency for unity between the private and the public sector. Competition and free market? lol When all means of production are held by one entity, it doesn't really matter what you call the system, it is what it is. The Wheel of Nerfs turns, and builds come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the build that gave it birth comes again. Last edited by Bars on Jan 29, 2017, 4:33:34 AM	Posted by Bars on Jan 29, 2017, 4:32:19 AM Quote this Post
" ScrotieMcB wrote: No really, he imagined powerful corporate interests gaining ever-increasing "control, directly or indirectly," over "the main sources of information (press, radio, education). That's not really capitalism but corporatism and people who believe in free market capitalism are (should be) against it. On that note I find funny how uneducated SJWs with degrees, call Trump fascist. While Hillary with her close ties to corporate interests and big government ideas, is a more close approximation of Fascism. Trump is not an ideal president in this regard, but that was the pick: a corporate neocon harpy or an eccentric billionaire. When night falls She cloaks the world In impenetrable darkness	Posted by morbo on Jan 29, 2017, 4:38:56 AM Quote this Post
Morbo, if you think Trump is fundamentally different than Hillary, you're not seeing the writing on the wall. He's simply the representative of different lobbies. The eccentric billionaire act is good, but it's mostly dust and mirrors. Focus on the word "billionaire". The Wheel of Nerfs turns, and builds come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the build that gave it birth comes again.	Posted by Bars on Jan 29, 2017, 4:42:04 AM Quote this Post
" Bars wrote: Morbo, if you think Trump is fundamentally different than Hillary, you're not seeing the writing on the wall. He's simply the representative of different lobbies. The eccentric billionaire act is good, but it's mostly dust and mirrors. Focus on the word "billionaire". I think it's pretty clear he was fundamentally different, otherwise the entire corporatist propaganda machine wouldn't have arrayed against him in one of the most relentless smear campaigns of all time... and still ongoing. At a minimum, the list Trump represented compared to Clinton was much, much, much shorter. I say "was" because I know those lobbies would certainly want him as their representative, and are desperately trying to go back to The Before Time when they owned the President. Whether or not they've succeeded should be a continual question in all of our minds. I'm very serious about that. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB on Jan 29, 2017, 4:57:04 AM	Posted by ScrotieMcB on Jan 29, 2017, 4:56:08 AM Quote this Post
" ScrotieMcB wrote: " Bars wrote: Morbo, if you think Trump is fundamentally different than Hillary, you're not seeing the writing on the wall. He's simply the representative of different lobbies. The eccentric billionaire act is good, but it's mostly dust and mirrors. Focus on the word "billionaire". I think it's pretty clear he was fundamentally different, otherwise the entire corporatist propaganda machine wouldn't have arrayed against him in one of the most relentless smear campaigns of all time... and still ongoing. At a minimum, the list Trump represented compared to Clinton was much, much, much shorter. I say "was" because I know those lobbies would certainly want him as their representative, and are desperately trying to go back to The Before Time when they owned the President. Whether or not they've succeeded should be a continual question in all of our minds. I'm very serious about that. I don't think it's possible to be a US president and not be in their pocket one way or another, at least not for very long. The Wheel of Nerfs turns, and builds come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the build that gave it birth comes again.	Posted by Bars on Jan 29, 2017, 5:13:24 AM Quote this Post
" Bars wrote: Morbo, if you think Trump is fundamentally different than Hillary, you're not seeing the writing on the wall. He's simply the representative of different lobbies. The eccentric billionaire act is good, but it's mostly dust and mirrors. Focus on the word "billionaire". I'm not convinced. There are billionaires that don't fall into the standard caricature of "evil capitalist pig-dog": Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Steve Jobs... (some of these guys are actually worshipped by the liberal left). Trump's policy on trade is protectionist, which is a leftist idea. He IS different, unless he's an extremely masterful super-scammer. Look at what platforms were the top contenders campaigning on: Hillary - mostly trivial SJW stuff Bernie - gib free monies, plox Trump - bring back jobs Trump won the workers vote. While the Clintons are still trying to fill their pockets through clinton fundation scams, Trump already has a shitton of money, which makes him more resistant to lobbyists & special interests. Will Trump try to use his political power to further his brand? I don't doubt it. But will he steal directly from US citizens? I don't think so. When night falls She cloaks the world In impenetrable darkness	Posted by morbo on Jan 29, 2017, 5:32:36 AM Quote this Post
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