Donald Trump

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

Honestly, it was Trump's remarks about John Mccain that made me jump on board the Trump Train. I agree, he was a shitty pilot who got shot down and captured, and he's a "war hero" because???

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Like most Americans who entered Hoa Lo, McCain, despite his severe injuries, was immediately brutalized. Ordered to identify future American targets for bombing, he replied with name, rank and serial number. The Geneva Convention requires nothing more of prisoners of war, and that is all that the U.S. Code of Conduct allows of its own military if captured, or requires of any prisoners it takes. Following McCain's answer, two of the interrogators' large assistants took several turns encouraging him to cooperate by grabbing the front of his T-shirt and smashing their fists into his face.

McCain was in terrible pain, but believed that since Hanoi was a Geneva signatory, he would be taken care of until he was taken to a hospital. It didn't happen. He received no medical attention, and the interrogation and the brutalities continued. Days passed. Increasingly weak and feverish, McCain says he was forced to lay in his own waste. He was unable to use his hands, so occasionally guards were ordered to feed him. Still, he gave his captors only his name, rank and serial number. He was told that he was not a prisoner of war but a criminal, and that he had no rights.

McCain admits that he was tempted. He was in dire need of serious medical attention, he had dysentery and was rapidly losing weight he could not afford to lose. His chances of surviving this seemingly endless war were diminishing. He said he'd have to think about it.

A few days later he says his interrogator said, "The senior officer wants to know your answer."

"My answer is no," McCain said.

"Why?"

"Our Code of Conduct says we must not accept parole, amnesty or special favors."

McCain says his captors said they were anxious to demonstrate their good will. "President Johnson has ordered that you go home."

"Show me the orders."

They couldn't; there were no such orders.

"The doctors say you cannot live if you do not go home."

"The prisoners must be sent home in the order in which they were captured," McCain says he replied.

"What is your final answer?"

"My final answer is No."

Then, he recalls, his captors angrily told him, "It is going to be very bad for you now, McCain."

And it was. Eight or 10 prison guards piled into him, howling with laughter, trying to outdo each other, pounding his face and his slowly mending limbs, battering him.

That was followed by several days of steady torture.

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Antnee wrote:

This is why, you sniveling redcap.

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

Honestly, it was Trump's remarks about John Mccain that made me jump on board the Trump Train.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

What I am bothered about, is a) the remark belittling him came from a man who faked illness to get out of the Vietnam war. And b) that those remarks from a man who faked illness to get out of the Vietnam war, belittling a man who most certainly was in the Vietnam war, about his time in the Vietnam war, can get anyone to 'jump on board his fucking train'. What the fuck?

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A chaotic neutral character follows his whims, he is an individualist, beholden to no one. He values his own liberty but doesn’t actively strive to protect freedom as that would make them chaotic good. He avoids authority, resents any sort of law or restriction, and challenges confining traditions. A chaotic neutral character does not intentionally disrupt organizations as part of a campaign of anarchy as such an action would have to be motivated either by good (a desire to liberate others or destroy tyranny) or evil (and a desire to make those who oppose him suffer just for the sake of it). A chaotic neutral character may be unpredictable, but his behaviour is not random, he has his own goals and aims and he will stick to them, even if they change regularly or do not coincide with those of his society.

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

If China wants to create a man-made Island in the South China sea and put a base there, so fucking what? What made them do that in the first place? It was aggression by the USA that motivated them to do it, and that was their response.

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morbo wrote:

I disagree here. China's claims to south china sea are absolutely ridicolous and expansionist. Just look at the map, they want everything for themselves, even tho there's several other countries (Filipnes, Vietnam, etc..) which have equal, or better claims to parts of that territory.

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Sometimes "USA World Police" is doing and saying the right thing. China putting military installations on those artificial islands is an act of bullying everyone else in the region. Tho China is quite smart and is applying a combination of hard & soft power (buying governements with trade deals, eg: Filipines).

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McCain is a mad dog and should retire. Do you guys remembere "bomb, bomb, Iran"? This guy could have been a US president...

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

That's not our fight. I don't personally give a damn about their squabbles over territory. In a region that's nowhere near our shores.