Petition to un-nerf revenants

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Malbidion wrote:

Yeah, I won't be logging in any more until I read about some summoner love. It doesn't necessarily have to be a revenant reversion, but that was really the only thing making this build even semi-competitive at this point. Personally, I have no interest in an SRS build and right now every other skill in the summoner arsenal is lackluster at best. The snapshot mechanics we used to use were totally cheese, but at least it made summoners competitive.

Pets just melt in boss encounters and aren't always easily replaced. Revenants being the obvious one, but zombies too. With gems attached, their mana cost is often more than we can spare on the fly with our auras up (which are always pretty close to necessary).

Too bad. I found this spec way more fun than the D3 WD.

i check what 'summoners' have in terms of characters and your summoner truly shocked me

he has 4 (FOUR) life nodes allocated! and only few accidental ES nodes allocated.

if you still survive anything higher than 68 maps you should ask yourself a question:

is it fair that summoners can survive with <10 nodes into survivability and yet they complain about their damage? is it fair?

you know that in 2.0 no non-summoner character is capable of completing cruel with these defensive stats?


several other posters here are just as interesting. interesting read

what this petition reads is: "WE WANT AND DEMAND that our cheap, survivable, suitable for MF, cookiecutter build is back as we enjoyed all the benefits AND had a great damage"

i do not expect this to happen

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I'll suggest you to try the stygian againt with a LMP (or a GMP) and a good setup you'll find the clear speed really good it's still really strong

and yes I do play Summoner a lot, and I find it really strong and fun even more now since the 2.0.0 summoner never have been so powerfull even after the nerf on stygians

running them with lmp wrath and offensive curse now ... faild my timed zana daily today, didnt manage to get half way through (lvl 71 map with lvl 83 char) .... still really strong ??
i dont see this

I support the petition to un nerf spectre revenants. They were the coolest mob in the game, now they are just meh, better off not using them.

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sidtherat wrote:

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Malbidion wrote:

Yeah, I won't be logging in any more until I read about some summoner love. It doesn't necessarily have to be a revenant reversion, but that was really the only thing making this build even semi-competitive at this point. Personally, I have no interest in an SRS build and right now every other skill in the summoner arsenal is lackluster at best. The snapshot mechanics we used to use were totally cheese, but at least it made summoners competitive.

Pets just melt in boss encounters and aren't always easily replaced. Revenants being the obvious one, but zombies too. With gems attached, their mana cost is often more than we can spare on the fly with our auras up (which are always pretty close to necessary).

Too bad. I found this spec way more fun than the D3 WD.

i check what 'summoners' have in terms of characters and your summoner truly shocked me

he has 4 (FOUR) life nodes allocated! and only few accidental ES nodes allocated.

if you still survive anything higher than 68 maps you should ask yourself a question:

is it fair that summoners can survive with <10 nodes into survivability and yet they complain about their damage? is it fair?

you know that in 2.0 no non-summoner character is capable of completing cruel with these defensive stats?


several other posters here are just as interesting. interesting read

what this petition reads is: "WE WANT AND DEMAND that our cheap, survivable, suitable for MF, cookiecutter build is back as we enjoyed all the benefits AND had a great damage"

i do not expect this to happen

Why do you and other people keep missing the point? Whether you agree with the nerf or not is completely irrelevant.
GGG says one thing and then does the other. Look at the goddamn opening post again, read those patch notes and then tell me how what they did makes sense to you. Then think about the timing (2 weeks into new league, of a new expansion which brought back many players like me).
Is each and everyone of you too dense or elitist to see how much fucking damage this does to the game? How the Devs come across when doing something like this?
I even state how it SHOULD have gone down in the opening post. If your intent is to nerf a mob, because too many players die to it, then why did they not also buff specters a bit across the board? Is it too much to ask for? I want to play a relaxed, viable and FUN summoner build. I'll throw all my money at the screen if any game can finally give me what I want, but it seems no one is willing to.

How can we DEMAND such unreasonable standards? You're totally right, our spec is way too cookie cutter, brb rerolling FlameTotem/CoCyclone/Incenerate/ExplosiveArrow/IceCrash/whatever. Those builds require pure skill....

Wtf is wrong with you people.

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DieKao wrote:

Why do and other people keep missing the point? Whether you agree with the nerf or not is completely irrelevant.
GGG says one thing and then does the other. Look at the goddamn opening post again, read those patch notes and then tell me how what they did makes sense to you. Then think about the timing (2 weeks into new league, of a new expansion which brought back many players like me).
Is each and everyone of you too dense or elitist to see how much fucking damage this does to the game? How the Devs come across when doing something like this?
I even state how it SHOULD have gone down in the opening post.

Wtf is wrong with you people.

No people don't miss the point.

And there was nothing wrong with the patch notes, it stated perfectly why it needed to happen.

Rev's where out of-line compared to other content and they where in fact "slaughtering exiles" like mentioned.

Not to mention they are still viable in there current form.

Peace,

-Boem-

Ive seen boem on multiple threds and he makes little sense every time, its best to just ignore him and his shortsightedness. Spectre Gem itself should get a new buff of at least 30% damage and 10%attack/cast speed at the very least. Spectre was viable because of this mob, now its not viable. So many people who built around spectres are screwed.

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Boem wrote:

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DieKao wrote:

Why do and other people keep missing the point? Whether you agree with the nerf or not is completely irrelevant.
GGG says one thing and then does the other. Look at the goddamn opening post again, read those patch notes and then tell me how what they did makes sense to you. Then think about the timing (2 weeks into new league, of a new expansion which brought back many players like me).
Is each and everyone of you too dense or elitist to see how much fucking damage this does to the game? How the Devs come across when doing something like this?
I even state how it SHOULD have gone down in the opening post.

Wtf is wrong with you people.

No people don't miss the point.

And there was nothing wrong with the patch notes, it stated perfectly why it needed to happen.

Rev's where out of-line compared to other content and they where in fact "slaughtering exiles" like mentioned.

Not to mention they are still viable in there current form.

Peace,

-Boem-

aaaaaaaand you missed it too. Try again.

Also, stop signing your own post. I can't even...

lol thats boem for you

-sixpackand2guns

Let's see

The impact of revenants slaughtering players in top-content over and over

vs

The impact of reducing there efficiency for summoners

I wonder which one would have the most detrimental effect to the core game huh. Completely ignoring the fact they are still viable even after the nerf obviously.

Or your personal investment in the mater, which should also be irrelevant when discussing balance changes for the greater good of the game.

Hmmm balance them now, at the 2 week marker, or balance them in a month or so, which one would be more detrimental, i do wonder.

Peace,

-Boem-

edit : and just to clarify, your OP assumes all spectres previous to revenants are shit in comparison or "nonviable", so i wonder, how did people play summoner for all those years before revenants came into play?

If your premise is flawed, your entire post loses merit, so you might want to reread that and adjust accordingly.

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Boem wrote:

Not to mention they are still viable in there current form.

and that's why u play srs ?
you are just posting the same things over and over again "spectres are fine , nerf is fine ,ggg post/patchnote is fine ,summoners are still gucci" , probably just to upset people.
so i dont know why you always post "peace" at the end ... that's not what you are looking for ;)