Templar - St. ELMO's Fire (Dual Totem, Dual Curse, EE, Fire Trap Templar) NERFED :( RIP build - Forum

at what point is better to use "classic" shield then spirit shield ? or is there any difference later on (higher difficulties, end-game)? -i have nice kite shield but i still use spirit shield with total of +43spell power (not best i know)-life regen-mana regen-and ES. - probably it really depends :) most of the time im not hit by mobs but that extra armor from shield might be handy ? thx	Posted by vladrak84#2902 on Feb 10, 2013, 8:10:32 AM Quote this Post
I tried this build out with slight variations. i got rid of EE because the white mob killing speed was too bad and took out dual curses as well. In exchange, i got eldrich batttery which solved all my mana problems. i was at level 67 before i derped thinking i was a god trying to kill 4 rares and a champion pack in a game with 5 people. this build is UNGODLY levels of strong. 3 fire traps, 1 bear trap, 3 zombies, and dual totems. Your dps output is INSANE.	Posted by maoc389#4881 on Feb 10, 2013, 6:24:46 PM Quote this Post
at what point is better to use "classic" shield then spirit shield ? When sticking to a shield I would just stick with the spirit shields. Look for +spell dmg, +life, +es, + resists if u need them. If you hurting for armor/evasion/hp and u find a nice strength one go for it. Remember safety first! Or if your going to fight a major hurting boss like Vaal, go w/ a high armor +hp shield or if piety i would go w/ high evasion + life shield. probably it really depends :) most of the time im not hit by mobs but that extra armor from shield might be handy ? depends on your confidence. I did get hit hard as hell from a desynched boss in lunaris lvl 2. Took away 2400 life + es in that 1 hit. I am lucky to be alive. You may have forgot to close a tag in the op. Yeah I looked through it but I couldn't find it. i got rid of EE because the white mob killing speed was too bad and took out dual curses as wellEven if I get a 5 link I don't think it will be worth the trade off. I am melting white mobs with just 1 firetrap. took out dual curses as well. That 2nd curse (conductivity takes away the negative EE effect and then some. i was at level 67 before i derped thinking i was a god trying to kill 4 rares and a champion pack in a game with 5 people. I was routinely soloing max players docks in a different area then partners. All mobs melted before me. I recommend the EE + dual curses. got eldrich batttery which solved all my mana problems. I don't really have mana problems. I just drink pots. Edited gear section to show current gear as of lvl 75. IGN: YeahCrit My Guides Dual Claw Molten Strike Ranger HC: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1178252 Elmo Fire Templar HC: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/93967 Last edited by YeahPete#5854 on Feb 11, 2013, 8:06:17 PM	Posted by YeahPete#5854 on Feb 11, 2013, 8:02:01 PM Quote this Post
So you like hybrids? I can't figure out a good flask set and what mods I want for them yet. Also I was v bored and found the problem with the OP. Its somewhere around the theorized end build section there is an extra italic open tag Last edited by FireTako#5985 on Feb 11, 2013, 10:51:16 PM	Posted by FireTako#5985 on Feb 11, 2013, 10:15:55 PM Quote this Post
Hey very nice build! Have a couple of questions: 1) any way to make bear traps stronger than fire traps + ee ? Or is fire traps the better option generally. 2) Is arc a musthave? Im using spark ,and im wondering whether the build would still be viable for this? Thanks dude, and keep us updated for sure:)	Posted by kassam#2088 on Feb 12, 2013, 8:43:25 AM Quote this Post
Sorry for my ignorance but I'm not going through the entire thread so not sure if this was asked already or not... What gems were you using at low level and what do you suggest? can you give a brief run down like 1-20 use xxx gems 21-40 etc etc?	Posted by Norsemang#7923 on Feb 12, 2013, 12:00:05 PM Quote this Post
" Norsemang wrote: Sorry for my ignorance but I'm not going through the entire thread so not sure if this was asked already or not... What gems were you using at low level and what do you suggest? can you give a brief run down like 1-20 use xxx gems 21-40 etc etc? I have to admit I'm also intrigued by this build and would like to start collecting gear/gems for the leveling process? How do you recommend proceeding? What skills did you rely on early and such? Thanks in advance for any help!	Posted by azkinger#6042 on Feb 12, 2013, 3:01:51 PM Quote this Post
" YeahPete wrote: What spells should I use for early game and what should I prioritize for stats? Frost Nova - AoE slows mobs down. Works well until later areas Firestorm - I used this for brutus and bosses in the lower levels. Molten Shell - Great for defense while doing bandits\graveyard\weavers. I ran 2 shadows through to get traps. I used bear traps and firetraps, but soon learned that just firetraps is actually more effective. Run a showdow through to kill Brutus and grab all firetraps on the way there and get clarity when u kill brutus. I mostly used Frost Nova though it really works well un until cruel fellshrine with no supports. I would use molten shell, run into huge mob and blast frost nova until molten shell pops usually whole mob is dead. I picked up the strays w/ firestorm. what should I prioritize for stats? Follow my tree I went str8 for Amplify. Then I followed the path to Discipline and Training Then I went for Prestigigation and Celestial Walker Then Body and Soul Up to Fitness TO Shield Mastery and all but the 1 shield node AVoid Cast Interruption Fitness to the right of there All the way up to minion Explode grabbing life and the shield block nodes No EE yet though! Then down to Ancestral Bond then down to Elemental Adaption Marauder resist + Life nodes Now get EE Then Dual curses last. AFTer dual curses I filled in the spare life nodes like the +8% nodes and went for the Marauder shield block which helps alot. Don't forget those +30 dex nodes to use fire trap. Bear trap requires more dex than fire trap to beware if you want ot try that.	Posted by FireTako#5985 on Feb 12, 2013, 5:26:49 PM Quote this Post
Congrats on a pretty good 2 hour race, Pete! Suddenly noticed your name on the first page. In the end you beat Kripp by 600 exp. What kinda templar were you playing? Anyway, thanks for this cool idea for a build. I am giving it my own twist though, partly because I am playing default league and also because I finally (on my 4th char now) feel comfortable enough with Skilldrassil to impose my own ideas on it. However, the basics are the same and I am having a blast with it. That's all, just acknowledging these things! edit: P.S. terrible character name for the race! Last edited by Ahrimania#3750 on Feb 12, 2013, 10:18:57 PM	Posted by Ahrimania#3750 on Feb 12, 2013, 10:18:01 PM Quote this Post
" FireTako wrote: " YeahPete wrote: What spells should I use for early game and what should I prioritize for stats? Frost Nova - AoE slows mobs down. Works well until later areas Firestorm - I used this for brutus and bosses in the lower levels. Molten Shell - Great for defense while doing bandits\graveyard\weavers. I ran 2 shadows through to get traps. I used bear traps and firetraps, but soon learned that just firetraps is actually more effective. Run a showdow through to kill Brutus and grab all firetraps on the way there and get clarity when u kill brutus. I mostly used Frost Nova though it really works well un until cruel fellshrine with no supports. I would use molten shell, run into huge mob and blast frost nova until molten shell pops usually whole mob is dead. I picked up the strays w/ firestorm. what should I prioritize for stats? Follow my tree I went str8 for Amplify. Then I followed the path to Discipline and Training Then I went for Prestigigation and Celestial Walker Then Body and Soul Up to Fitness TO Shield Mastery and all but the 1 shield node AVoid Cast Interruption Fitness to the right of there All the way up to minion Explode grabbing life and the shield block nodes No EE yet though! Then down to Ancestral Bond then down to Elemental Adaption Marauder resist + Life nodes Now get EE Then Dual curses last. AFTer dual curses I filled in the spare life nodes like the +8% nodes and went for the Marauder shield block which helps alot. Don't forget those +30 dex nodes to use fire trap. Bear trap requires more dex than fire trap to beware if you want ot try that. much appreciated. by frost nova does he mean ice nova? cuz i cant find a frost nova gem Last edited by Norsemang#7923 on Feb 13, 2013, 3:25:17 PM	Posted by Norsemang#7923 on Feb 13, 2013, 2:24:09 PM Quote this Post