POE: The Best of Games and the Worst of Games

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xxxmarok84xxx wrote:

Yeah i had one exalted orb dropped in a year. I'm so so bad at this game. Only if I had a better spec and better build more exalted orbs would have dropped :-( Shame on me.

There are a lot of people who dont use the trading channel neither the forums and play only solo but I'm not here to talk about this.
My post was about pointing out what Chris said "use exalted orbs to modify your equipment". How I am supposed to modify my gear when i get 1 ex drop.

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Baldrick wrote:

Of course the crafting system is gambling. Do you want guaranteed success everytime you try to link something? It would be fun for a while until everyone had all the very top items possible, then people would get bored.

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Morgoth2356 wrote:

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xxxmarok84xxx wrote:

Yeah i had one exalted orb dropped in a year. I'm so so bad at this game. Only if I had a better spec and better build more exalted orbs would have dropped :-( Shame on me.

There are a lot of people who dont use the trading channel neither the forums and play only solo but I'm not here to talk about this.
My post was about pointing out what Chris said "use exalted orbs to modify your equipment". How I am supposed to modify my gear when i get 1 ex drop.

You can sell your loots for orbs and trade for exalted orbs too, but you refuse to do so, yet you're playing a multiplayer and online game that explicitly encourages trading as one of his main features. So of course the game is gonna be harder for you, but don't complain about it afterwards please.

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drewiey wrote:

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xxxmarok84xxx wrote:

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Chris wrote:

The addition of currency items like Orbs of Alchemy and Exalted Orbs allow players to modify their items in a more directed way. The extent to which this game system is important depends on how often they drop.

Chris there are people like me who found 1 ( some 0 ) exalted orb drop in more than 1 year of playing PoE. So please...

Chris I'm so bad at this game, please ! mercy!

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Baldrick wrote:

Option 2
Harder to get all the top tier items: Initially more frustrating, then great joy once you get them.

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If alchs and exalts drop every minute then players would have easy access to masses of rares, all with six mods. This would create an extremely crafting-heavy game and content would have to progress steeply in difficulty to compensate. Rares would quickly "converge" so that everyone had top-5% ones.

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On the other hand, if the currency items dropped extremely rarely, then players would almost never get the chance to create a rare or to add mods to one. They'd be relying *almost* entirely on item drops, so it'd be far harder for items to converge on the best rares.

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This continuum, controlled by currency drop rates, dictates both the difficulty of the game, but also the amount of expected item manipulation that players need to engage in to gear up for Merciless.

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Players play Path of Exile more efficiently than we imagined when we initially set the currency drop rates (which have remained mostly unchanged since then). Players are concentrating their item rerolls into fewer and better items than we intended. While this level of end-game item manipulation is often described as really fun, it has the problems that you've discussed in this thread. One way to address this would be to reduce the drop rate of higher currency and also make content easier. I am very aware that if we did this, people would complain that we nerfed currency drops and dumbed down the game difficulty. We'll find a better solution!

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Baldrick wrote:

I dont understand the gripes.

The very best things are and should be very difficult to get.

Seems like the system is working as it should.

Of course the crafting system is gambling. Do you want guaranteed success everytime you try to link something? It would be fun for a while until everyone had all the very top items possible, then people would get bored.

Option 1
Easier to get all the top tier items: Initially fun, but then bordom and quitting in the long run

Option 2
Harder to get all the top tier items: Initially more frustrating, then great joy once you get them.

Option 2 is what GGG has chosen for the game.

If you don't like the drops and the crafting system, come up with a better one that still fulfills the requirements for the above option 2 and post it.

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johnnysd wrote:

The "crafting" system is a complete abomination. Sorry but it is true. It adds literally nothing to the game other than annoyance and frustration and serves no strategic or skill value, rather simply a nested completely random slog through tons of orbs just to get features of an item to progress in the game. There may be underlying "economy" and grinding rationales behind the orb system but the reality is that is not fun on any level and really brings the enjoyment level of the game down significantly. There should be enough barriers in build, gear, monster AI, stat stacking etc...to make progression difficult and thought provoking not to need a gambling system on steroids to grind everything to a screeching halt. I am not convinced it does anything to make people play more, but it certainly will make people leave. It should be completely scrapped and overhauled to be honest. It is abysmal.

Then there is loot. POE does not really have loot, it has core items and orbs. Period. All you get as you play the game is an endless sea of white gear, occasional blues rares and uniques with random sockets that invariably need to be modified using incredibly low drop rate orbs and the terrible crafting system. There is very very rare joy in finding anything in POE. In fact drops are so bad, that it is actually more efficient to sit in town and "buy" items with the crafting orbs, because you are never going to find what you need, and the orbs you have because of the completely random nature are completely useless for trying to actually craft something. For a game that originally promised no currency and a barter system, POE is the most currency-concentric game I have ever played.

POE just needs more fun stuff to drop. Think about the fact that D2 had gens jewels, charms, set items, runes, class specific items, true crafted items and you realize that in D2 you always were finding something interesting even if it didn't make your character better, in POE you very rarely find anything that is interesting. Even the uniques are extremely limited.