...::: SFL Poll results and conclusions :::...

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iamstryker wrote:
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mushioov wrote:

Wrong. This game is multiplayer ARPG and trading and economy are designed part of it as they are just because of it. End of story.


You can have a multiplayer ARPG without trading.


Where is the fun in playing with others and finding something they could use without being able to give it to them?
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morbo wrote:
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mushioov wrote:
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morbo wrote:


Why the need for a self-found league? Because such a league will have a level playing field, while the current ladder is a den of RMT cheaters.

Wrong. This game is multiplayer ARPG and trading and economy are designed part of it as they are just because of it. End of story.


No, you are wrong because:

1.) RMT is illegal in PoE
2.) The game is single-player with co-op option :P

I think that only players who like to scam / flip / RMT & cheat their way up, are afraid of an additional SF league.


You are basically accusing me of all these things!! Sames as many other legit players that dont like a SFL.
Well, this is basically the way DIII is turning into now, self found, account bound items, no need to trade or hit the auctions in search for upgrades.

As a casual player (married with children + work) I welcome the idea, and it might make me give a second look at DIII (after reading a metric shitload of reviews before ever spending a single penny on DiabloIII!)

I would welcome a Self found league in POE, even if it would mean a 12 months only + total wipe, if it would allow me to find more and better upgrades, and actually spend some orbs on crafting instead of playing the low-ball trading sub-game...

I fully understand it if GGG does not feel the same way though, if they dont want this into the game at all..
Don't Touch my Sweep please GGG!
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DirkAustin wrote:
You are basically accusing me of all these things!! Sames as many other legit players that dont like a SFL.

It's because you and other very loud anti-SFL antagonists, don't present any valid argument why would such a league be bad for the game.

Splintering the playerbase is a very lame excuse, as there are already 4 leagues + races and paid leagues are apparently coming someday = more splintering.

So?
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Last edited by morbo#1824 on Feb 7, 2014, 10:03:39 AM
What I cant understand is the reason why GGG wouldnt have SFL as an option...

Let everyone play as they wish.

They say that it would split the community - like its not split already between hc and sc...

Atleast put a SFL 1-2 month trial race and then evaluate.

Dont be so fcking stubborn.
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Cosma wrote:
What I cant understand is the reason why GGG wouldnt have SFL as an option...

Atleast put a SFL 1-2 month trial race and then evaluate.


Well if they never want to test it out, at least there might be a chance for a SF paid league.
Last edited by 2ofSpades#4172 on Feb 7, 2014, 10:29:50 AM
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Cosma wrote:
What I cant understand is the reason why GGG wouldnt have SFL as an option...


The official excuse is that they don't want to splinter the playerbase further, which is silly as the supposedly coming paid leagues will split the playerbase faster than LHC can split atoms...

The real reason is that GGG thinks forced trading helps to create a community, which fuels mtx sales. GGG doesn't like the self-found idea because they want you to trade (=interact) with others. Sadly this "interact" thing lots of times means being scammed or ripped off (especially if you are a newb), and thus is not really a good way to create a community.
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morbo wrote:
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DirkAustin wrote:
You are basically accusing me of all these things!! Sames as many other legit players that dont like a SFL.

It's because you and other very loud anti-SFL antagonists, don't present any valid argument why would such a league be bad for the game.

Splintering the playerbase is a very lame excuse, as there are already 4 leagues + races and paid leagues are apparently coming someday = more splintering.

So?


Saying a SFL would be good for a fair ladder is also a lame excuse. Nice try though.
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DirkAustin wrote:


Where is the fun in playing with others and finding something they could use without being able to give it to them?


You mean other people like something that you don't like?

Thats the whole point of the league, if you don't like it then don't play it.
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Last edited by iamstryker#5952 on Feb 7, 2014, 10:42:11 AM
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DirkAustin wrote:
Saying a SFL would be good for a fair ladder is also a lame excuse. Nice try though.


Ofc it would offer a fair ladder, because you remove RMT and cross-league trade cheating. No ability to trade, no RMT, no Xleague cheat.

(but you are just trolling me, right -_-)
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