Life vs Armour and Resists!

Ok now you are just trolling me lol

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Struyk wrote:

And you think that that does work against high hitting monsters? You will die horribly unless you got 6-7 endurance charges or 5 granite flasks. 500 life a sec + life leech + potions is retarded compared to the same amounts but with an extra 10k armour which you can get easly.

Got me to #1 templar on the ladder, cleared every map i ever tried. Also, 10k armor is not high for endgame. That, and you can't get endgame armor levels with anywhere near that much hp and regen.

EDIT: if you take 100 damage, 10k armor grants you 89% reduction.
Safe to say, white mobs are dealing more than 100 damage to you, let alone blues and rares, and again, let alone bosses.

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Xendran wrote:

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Struyk wrote:

And you think that that does work against high hitting monsters? You will die horribly unless you got 6-7 endurance charges or 5 granite flasks. 500 life a sec + life leech + potions is retarded compared to the same amounts but with an extra 10k armour which you can get easly.

Got me to #1 templar on the ladder, cleared every map i ever tried. Also, 10k armor is not high for endgame. That, and you can't get endgame armor levels with anywhere near that much hp and regen.

EDIT: if you take 100 damage, 10k armor grants you 89% reduction.
Safe to say, white mobs are dealing more than 100 damage to you, let alone blues and rares, and again, let alone bosses.

The number shown is for level 73 white mobs, you of all people should know the damage difference between level 60 white mobs and level 73 white mobs ITS HUGE if you look at the difference between level 60 and 68 mobs ofr example. You really think damage from those maps by blue monsters wont get reduced by 90%? Difference between white and blue monsters damage is minimal as well.

I know 10k armour doesnt scale well late game, which is why you go for life after you got some decent armour and 6-7 endurance charges.

And the only reason you are #1 is because you played alot on the same character, it doesnt mean anything else.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Atky4WeDodupdFdlcFZnMXdsLWY2T0t0MkJac0RaR2c

Start using this. It's more accurate than anything in game.

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Struyk wrote:

I do have 90% DR, just not against high hitting enemies like brutus and vaal which I said 10 times now. I can pop granite flasks all i want in level 60-64 maps and nothing changes.

Which means you DONT have 90% DR only vs crappy white mobs which no one is worried about.

You cant pop granites anytime you want also.

If you talking about granites also, then High HP builds are even BETTER, as they can get 20k armor just from a granite flask. So your theory is worse when I can run around with 20k armor from a granites "Anytime I want" and 7k HP.

1000 Incoming damage with my 1512 armor gave me 11% at level 78.
With your 10k armor, you get 45% reduction from that.
With an ironskin granite on that, youll get 77%.

Where is your 90%? This isn't even behind the scenes stuff, this is just going off of the DR that the game shows.

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Xendran wrote:

1000 Incoming damage with my 1512 armor gave me 11% at level 78.
With your 10k armor, you get 45% reduction from that.
With an ironskin granite on that, youll get 77%.

Where is your 90%? This isn't even behind the scenes stuff, this is just going off of the DR that the game shows.

He gets 90% because he running 6 Charges 6x5% +77% = 90%(over really)

Problem is you can see in his first video, he would get WRECKED by level 65+ mobs that do chaos.

Also Struyk, you are 100% right those constructs are 50% P damage, and 50% chaos. But try a real chaos damage mob. PA archers, and try ones that are not level 58. Try ones that are 65+, you would die in seconds. Even worse try maps where you cant regen, or have 50% less regen, or maps where you take chaos damage 30 per second and cant regen, or maps that lower your max resists to 60% instead of 80 (which you dont even have in the video).

Also your 18k armor vs a 1000 hit is only isnt 16.66% chance to stun, its a lot more because you dont take 100 damage because you wouldnt have 90% DR you would only have 60DR, if you count charges you have to count charges BOTH ways.


On top of all this, you have 0% chance to evade. While Xendran has 9% doesnt sound like much but it does help. Just throwing it out there.

I went into the pyramid with my life build, got surrounded by constructs and meleers, and was in no danger. Your armor build almost died.

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Xendran wrote:

I went into the pyramid with my life build, got surrounded by constructs and meleers, and was in no danger. Your armor build almost died.

No bro, thats the point, it looks like I almost died while I didnt even get close to dieing :)
PS: You also got 12k dps ground slam?

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Struyk wrote:

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Xendran wrote:

I went into the pyramid with my life build, got surrounded by constructs and meleers, and was in no danger. Your armor build almost died.

No bro, thats the point, it looks like I almost died while I didnt even get close to dieing :)
PS: You also got 12k dps ground slam?

You were VERY close to dying many times. I have a 4.5k dps piercing lightning arrow that shock stacks, capable of dealing much more if i put any points into dps. Remember the weapon you're using. I'm using a thicket bow that doesn't even have extra speed on it, or any elemental damage.