Life vs Armour and Resists!

OK I give up, to many trolls...

I was writing this because I saw people in streams trying to kill brutus with evasion armour and high life and dieing terribly. And other guys picking up many many life nodes while still taking insane damage because of low armour and running out of flask charges very fast. YOU CAN NOT run around with low armour and high hp unless you have uber life leech and life regen to keep up with the insane damage you will take! It's WAY MORE important then life, but ofcourse, when you already have uber high armour then life because most important because of the diminishing returns.

FIRST OF ALL, I DID NEVER SAY THAT STACKING LIFE DOESNT WORK, IT DOES WORK, BUT IT REQUIRES MANY MANY PASSIVE NODES AND LIFE GEAR. AND IT STILL REQUIRES ALOT OF ARMOUR!

Secondly, for all you guys who STILL think that chaos damage fucks up low life builds:
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULdSwn9KsY4

Third, my character has 1183 hp, but that doesnt mean that I would actually play with 1183 hp, its just to show that it does work for level 60-64 maps. For open beta I will be playing a shadow focused on endgame, not a 1.2k marauder that would die over and over in high end game. I have the chaos plate in my inventory because before skill reset I did have some more armour and life nodes then now and had about 4k hp with even more armour then now for endgame purposes.

And last, for all the trolls who think I dont know how armour reduction is calculated, fuck you.

But... you're wrong? Life is way more valuable, because if you have low max life, you're easy to burst down, even with high armor/resists. And chaos damage fucks you over hard if you don't have a high life pool. Plus, life makes life regen scale better. And it makes armor scale better. And high armor + life is really hard to get since getting max armor requires a suffix (and life is a suffix). Flasks are also more effective the more max life you have.

Block + high life is easier to do if you're really worried about physical damage, compared to high life + high armor, or even high armor + some life

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anubite wrote:

But... you're wrong? Life is way more valuable, because if you have low max life, you're easy to burst down, even with high armor/resists. And chaos damage fucks you over hard if you don't have a high life pool. Plus, life makes life regen scale better. And it makes armor scale better. And high armor + life is really hard to get since getting max armor requires a suffix (and life is a suffix).

Block + high life is easier to do if you're really worried about physical damage, compared to high life + high armor, or even high armor + some life

I have a 1.2k hp level 71 templar who just simply cant die... 81% all resists, 90% damage reduction from armour and the right pots.

Many people would think what you think, but in reality it's not the case.

Played about 600 hours, tried many many many many builds and ways to play and never ever got raped because of dieing to chaos damage because I got low hp.

I normally pick up 2 life rings and a life belt when I face the snakes and when I enter pyramid just to be sure.

Its really easy to get high physical reduction because of endurance charges so don't worry about that.

And yes ofcourse, life regen builds need alot of life lol XD, but also ARMOUR and RESISTS!

I find it hard to believe you have 90% damage reduction. Please post your gear and stuffs. How much armor are you even getting from gear?

And yes, Endurance Charges give you a lot of reduction - but that's kind of my point. You don't need armor, you just need life. Granite + Endurance Charges are all the armor you need.

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anubite wrote:

I find it hard to believe you have 90% damage reduction. Please post your gear and stuffs. How much armor are you even getting from gear?

And yes, Endurance Charges give you a lot of reduction - but that's kind of my point. You don't need armor, you just need life. Granite + Endurance Charges are all the armor you need.

I get 65% reduction from my armor and 25% from my endurance charges. Check screenshot in main post.

You cant run granite flasks every monster you fight lol...

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Struyk wrote:

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anubite wrote:

I find it hard to believe you have 90% damage reduction. Please post your gear and stuffs. How much armor are you even getting from gear?

And yes, Endurance Charges give you a lot of reduction - but that's kind of my point. You don't need armor, you just need life. Granite + Endurance Charges are all the armor you need.

I get 65% reduction from my armor and 25% from my endurance charges. Check screenshot in main post.

You cant run granite flasks every monster you fight lol...

With high life you don't have the need to run granite flasks all the time. Only for really hard hitting enemies.

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Covert wrote:

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Struyk wrote:

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anubite wrote:

I find it hard to believe you have 90% damage reduction. Please post your gear and stuffs. How much armor are you even getting from gear?

And yes, Endurance Charges give you a lot of reduction - but that's kind of my point. You don't need armor, you just need life. Granite + Endurance Charges are all the armor you need.

I get 65% reduction from my armor and 25% from my endurance charges. Check screenshot in main post.

You cant run granite flasks every monster you fight lol...

With high life you don't have the need to run granite flasks all the time. Only for really hard hitting enemies.

With high armour you don't need to run granite flasks all the time, not even for hard enemies... Read the example, there really is no reason to go high life.

Same with Diablo 3, if you go full life without all resists you won't far.
If you go low-medium life with high all resists you complete game easly.

High life and high life regen is by far the most valuable defense commodity. Chaos damage mobs are by far the most dangerous for HP builds and in maps, you never know when you might come across chaos mobs. Without a decent amount of HP, it doesn't matter how good your reaction time with flasks is. 10 chaos projectiles hitting you can still KO you easily at 1.2k HP. But seriously, 1.2k HP level 71 templar and 1.4k hp level 74 marauder? Tell that to any HC player and they'll call you a glass cannon for sure. I'd be surprised if you can even survive viper strike mobs in ruthless and chaos projectile Vaal constructs in merciless, what more maps.

Struyk, you need to read up on the mechanics regarding how armour works in this game. It is far more complicated than you think it is.

I do not care what DR your character sheet says you have. you are not getting 90% DR against hard hitters unless you use a granite flask (and definately not with only 5 charges, as that would mean you need 65% from armour, and you are not getting 30k armour without a granite).