Feedback and Suggestions - Legacy Items: An Owner's Thoughts & Guild's Thoughts & Our Petition!!! Note: Moderators Needed! - Forum

" CrescentMoon wrote: " mrtannerwold wrote: 1st: You lied in the original post by showing 6 Koam to gain credibility...and then when called out on it you dodged the question by saying "read the OP" or "read my response" where you, again simply dodged the question. This behavior makes your entire argument/petition/whatever this is invalid. No one is going to believe someone is "speaking on behalf of hundreds" when they will so easily lie about their vestment in the subject to gain ground. 2nd: Quoting false rules and regulations of the terms of agreement will get you nowhere. It may get you laughed at...but GGG surely isn't going to start banning accounts because your getting your feelings hurt over people figuring out your a fraud. 3rd: GGG intentionally made 2 sets of play-modes to fit both types of play styles - Casual (being standard) and more-than-casual (ladder). If you feel that you need a fresh start then join the ladder...your items and character shifts into standard at the end anyways so you, literally, lose nothing by doing this. The entire "legacy" item argument is invalid and I will youtube myself droping my BoR in town if GGG doesn't feel that same way. This is their game...and they have ALOT of other ARPG games to learn from...and they STILL made this decision. I'm sure they know what they are doing and the direction they want to go in. Not to say they don't listen to feedback...but not "zomg rage face me and my 3(00)friends gonna leave if you don't do what we want). Clearly on topic...before you get the chance to quote some vague portion of the ToU at me. Cheers! [removed by admin] Stay on topic...your in violation of the ToU... Also...wut? EVERYTHING IS BETTER WHEN IT'S TACO-FLAVORED! Last edited by Support#0000 on Oct 22, 2013, 8:02:18 PM	Posted by mrtannerwold#6441 on Oct 22, 2013, 7:57:58 PM Quote this Post
" HandsomeBear wrote: " Synner wrote: As a guild supreme leader of the 648 bazillion microbes currently living under my ball-sac, I over ride your vote because my rule has majority. I could care less about legacy items. Let them stay in, it makes for a nice antique feel. Your constant "ima gonna report you sucka" response could be taken as a threat and also violate the TOU. Sounds like bullying to me. I disagree. Not just with your petition but also with your responses, lack of openness and general attitude. Add that to your vote tally. ^ Agreed. OP isn't interested in what people think, he's looking for knee-jerk-reactions. What about my opinion on the matter?and other people too i bet :) ? Not everyone on Standard is a casual,bla bla,read history whatever. Im gonna crash for some rest,had enough of this pile of BS & i assure you my feelings on this whole legacy matter are genuine. Last edited by thegamingkage#0176 on Oct 22, 2013, 7:58:58 PM	Posted by thegamingkage#0176 on Oct 22, 2013, 7:58:35 PM Quote this Post
" Synner wrote: As a guild supreme leader of the 648 bazillion microbes currently living under my ball-sac, I over ride your vote because my rule has majority. I could care less about legacy items. Let them stay in, it makes for a nice antique feel. Your constant "ima gonna report you sucka" response could be taken as a threat and also violate the TOU. Sounds like bullying to me. I disagree. Not just with your petition but also with your responses, lack of openness and general attitude. Add that to your vote tally. This is the best thing I have read in a very long time. +1 internet for you. Edit: OP still a liar...to stay on topic EVERYTHING IS BETTER WHEN IT'S TACO-FLAVORED! Last edited by mrtannerwold#6441 on Oct 22, 2013, 8:02:00 PM	Posted by mrtannerwold#6441 on Oct 22, 2013, 8:01:01 PM Quote this Post
Where is the petition to give OP an award for most self-important forum thread in internet history? The sheer density of the ego on display actually distorted my monitor image. I think we need to take this one straight to change.org! Bravo! " ... to let them know the game isn’t going to be very fair from here on out." - Qarl	Posted by Panda413#5809 on Oct 22, 2013, 8:01:05 PM Quote this Post
Once again I disagree, to stay on topic. I also am still curious as to why you removed the "Multiple" Kaom's from your first post after players identified your falsity. The strength in your argument stems from your claims to represent a larger audience. There is no proof of this and the fact that you falsified your first post with false information means that I cannot trust you. Hope everyone understands this. :) To stay on topic, I do NOT believe there is anything wrong with Legacy unique items outside of PVP. There is no harm to you or anyone else of fact with someone slaying monsters in PVE using an "OP" Legacy. This is a failed thread from the start. Good luck and keep well. I wish everyone the best and hope to see you in game!	Posted by TheKillSwitch#1835 on Oct 22, 2013, 8:01:45 PM Quote this Post
" Azarius wrote: This issue has come up ever since the implementation of the Silver Branch Bow. IMO that excuse is moot. Some people even inadvertently squelched those of us who spoke out back then, but now more and more people feel like we do. I'm sorry but facts aren't 'excuses' and they can't be 'moot'. Facts reflect reality, you can call it whatever you want but at the end of the day, facts tell it like it is. There are 17 hours left on the clock. GGG has stated it takes 12 hours to change a unique and nerf it. There is not enough development time to put this change in place for release in such a way that it won't require the 12 hours (and it's probably longer now) per unique to fix them. This means that fixing all the legacy items would takes days as the 'best case' outcome of them deciding to fix legacy items. They will not take down the game for days to 'fix' legacy items. These are the facts of the matter. Legacy items are happening! :D I'd also like to add that my guild of 800 members has 750+ people that believe that legacy items are fine. I think it's safe to say that I speak for all of them so feel free to add 750 downvotes for your petition. Maybe make a special note on the front page. Thanks a lot! Regards, DestroTheGod Last edited by DestroTheGod#5470 on Oct 22, 2013, 8:02:56 PM	Posted by DestroTheGod#5470 on Oct 22, 2013, 8:01:51 PM Quote this Post
" CasperVanDienAsGriffinStone wrote: I civilly disagree while remaining well within the ToU. I commend you for your contribution. A perfect example of how contention can be set with the foundation of controlled civility. Two boxers can go into the ring and fight to become the champion, but they have to box a certain way, and they can't (shouldn't) take cheap shots at each other (or they face the consequences). The ring itself is also a metaphor for 'order' used to contain a seemingly chaotic ordeal; however, with the right mix of control, order, and civility in conjunction as a conglomerate whole with passion (debate in this instance), we can arrive to a sharp and focused edge that can become a tool. This tool can pierce to elicit a response, or everything can be chaotic from the onset without the right foundation to govern it, and we remain with blunted force; a force that only warrants a lack distention... and all that rumble and quarrel from the fury fizzles out into a murmur of defeat. Defeat for all on all sides because in the end no one will win, and often times from my experience this revelation is one that comes to fruition when it's far too late. I thank you for taking part in a positive debate. Perhaps the road's will consummate to the same stars. ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐	Posted by Azarius#0884 on Oct 22, 2013, 8:05:31 PM Quote this Post
I really think they could "pair" PvP matches with certain uniques, as we know some uniques have been rebalanced, and others straightly nerfed/buffed, i bet they WILL perhaps match those in PvP for example when using Kaoms, having the standard options, altho 500hp is not much since you probably are building a HP build...plus the new kaoms will have some sort of fire dmg which will outsmart that 500hp buff from the legacy one. What i can tell you from my 2.5 years of trading in TF2/Dota is that these items will become uber-valuable and maybe they could be the new highest currency and it's likely that there will be RMT for those im SURE. This is just the beginning of the game, more patches WILL come and there's a lot to expect. I personally owning 2 high rolled legacy items will wait and sell them for a crapload of ex sooner or later which is what most people will do. Cheers (Neutral vote in case you are wondering)	Posted by elhermano30#6079 on Oct 22, 2013, 8:06:34 PM Quote this Post
I support nerfing legacy uniques. They have no place in a game like this if you want to promote pvp in standard/hardcore. I personally play ladder leagues, but I feel for anyone who has to deal with the way the devs are treating the permanent leagues.	Posted by Gravethought#3018 on Oct 22, 2013, 8:07:15 PM Quote this Post
I agree	Posted by Piracy#0917 on Oct 22, 2013, 8:08:00 PM Quote this Post