Legacy Items: An Owner's Thoughts & Guild's Thoughts & Our Petition!!! Note: Moderators Needed!

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LPSoldier wrote:
lol wtf u are doing you edited your first posts

omg not only a lier


you dont feel any shame? now edit pls the part with "multiple kaoms" pls


Off topic, please stay on topic. And since you are off topic atm, it would do you good to read The Art of War. There is method to my madness, but it abides by the rules set forth by GGG, unlike some of your madness.
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Last edited by Azarius#0884 on Oct 22, 2013, 7:40:21 PM
I agree and hereby sign on to this petition to balance PvP and do away with 'legacy' based items.
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Azarius wrote:
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LPSoldier wrote:
lol wtf u are doing you edited your first posts

omg not only a lier


you dont feel any shame? now edit pls the part with "multiple kaoms" pls


Off topic, please stay on topic. And since you are off topic atm, it would do you good to read The Art of War. There is method to my madness, but it abides by the rules set forth by GGG, unlike some of your madness.


how can i stay on topic if you change every minute
the goal statement of your first post?

its called manipulation
People read my last posts.
Wont talk anymore shit about this whole pile of crap legacy items -.- . I am deeply saddened & dissapointed indeed,about the legacy items,dafuq...
Also that guy who said he paid for his kaom should be banned if he paid $$$$benjaminz for it lulz.
Last edited by thegamingkage#0176 on Oct 22, 2013, 7:42:54 PM
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Azarius wrote:
I find it offensive, and I believe others do. This is a serious thread, and from the onset I said this was a thread about ONE ISSUE in particular. People are to VOTE via a PETITION. I can't believe how many times I have to reiterate this.


Regardless, the rules can't cater to everybody's triggers. People make a valid point and you choose to ignoring a lot of what people have to say. Which leads me to believe you made this thread only to have people agree with you, and shoot down everyone who don't.

Instead of answering posts by people who give you some genuine feedback you decide to focus on the trolls. Perhaps to make you look like a victim? Care to lend a thought to my post which you promptly ignored? ;)

My post
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HandsomeBear wrote:
I disagree.

The only thing I think they should do is to not allow them in PvP. Other than that I think it's completely pointless to remove them. I personally don't own one of these soon-to-be legacy items, except for a pair of Rainbowstrides, but quiet honestly they're not hurting anybody(except in PvP) so why remove them?

So that's what I think you should ask GGG for- banning these items from PvP. Furthermore, if you are, like you said, 300 members, your more casual players can easily get a hand from the more active players as regards gear and maps. I strongly doubt that you find competing in new leagues to be a problem at all unless your guild is filled with self-serving players. So, be a dear and tell everyone why you really want them removed/updated if, that is, you actually have a group of 240 people who want this.

Also, looking at who is whining and who is praising a certain decision from GGG is seldom a reliable source of the real numbers as people who are pleased with said decision usually don't feel the need to let everybody know how pleased they are. It's the people who want something to change that tend to get vocal about it on the forums.

Thoughts?
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Last edited by HandsomeBear#0063 on Oct 22, 2013, 7:43:21 PM
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HandsomeBear wrote:
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Azarius wrote:
I find it offensive, and I believe others do. This is a serious thread, and from the onset I said this was a thread about ONE ISSUE in particular. People are to VOTE via a PETITION. I can't believe how many times I have to reiterate this.


Regardless, the rules can't cater to everybody's triggers. People make a valid point and you choose to ignoring a lot of what people have to say. Which leads me to believe you made this thread only to have people agree with you, and shoot down everyone who don't.

Instead of answering posts by people who give you some genuine feedback you decide to focus on the trolls. Perhaps to make you look like a victim? Care to lend a thought to my post which you promptly ignored? ;)

My post
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HandsomeBear wrote:
I disagree.

The only thing I think they should do is to not allow them in PvP. Other than that I think it's completely pointless to remove them. I personally don't own one of these soon-to-be legacy items, except for a pair of Rainbowstrides, but quiet honestly they're not hurting anybody(except in PvP) so why remove them?

So that's what I think you should ask GGG for- banning these items from PvP. Furthermore, if you are, like you said, 300 members, your more casual players can easily get a hand from the more active players as regards gear and maps. I strongly doubt that you find competing in new leagues to be a problem at all unless your guild is filled with self-serving players. So, be a dear and tell everyone why you really want them removed/updated if, that is, you actually have a group of 240 people who want this.

Also, looking at who is whining and who is praising a certain decision from GGG is seldom a reliable source of the real numbers as people who are pleased with said decision usually don't feel the need to let everybody know how pleased they are. It's the people who want something to change that tend to get vocal about it on the forums.

Thoughts?


I answered them various times, and the proof is all in my trade histories. I am here for my guild, and this is about a PETITION regarding issues(s) stated in my OP, so please stay on topic.
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Last edited by Azarius#0884 on Oct 22, 2013, 7:46:19 PM
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HandsomeBear wrote:
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Azarius wrote:
I find it offensive, and I believe others do. This is a serious thread, and from the onset I said this was a thread about ONE ISSUE in particular. People are to VOTE via a PETITION. I can't believe how many times I have to reiterate this.


Regardless, the rules can't cater to everybody's triggers. People make a valid point and you choose to ignoring a lot of what people have to say. Which leads me to believe you made this thread only to have people agree with you, and shoot down everyone who don't.

Instead of answering posts by people who give you some genuine feedback you decide to focus on the trolls. Perhaps to make you look like a victim? Care to lend a thought to my post which you promptly ignored? ;)

My post
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HandsomeBear wrote:
I disagree.

The only thing I think they should do is to not allow them in PvP. Other than that I think it's completely pointless to remove them. I personally don't own one of these soon-to-be legacy items, except for a pair of Rainbowstrides, but quiet honestly they're not hurting anybody(except in PvP) so why remove them?

So that's what I think you should ask GGG for- banning these items from PvP. Furthermore, if you are, like you said, 300 members, your more casual players can easily get a hand from the more active players as regards gear and maps. I strongly doubt that you find competing in new leagues to be a problem at all unless your guild is filled with self-serving players. So, be a dear and tell everyone why you really want them removed/updated if, that is, you actually have a group of 240 people who want this.

Also, looking at who is whining and who is praising a certain decision from GGG is seldom a reliable source of the real numbers as people who are pleased with said decision usually don't feel the need to let everybody know how pleased they are. It's the people who want something to change that tend to get vocal about it on the forums.

Thoughts?

Than i bet my life you would be SCARED if the petition would be directly in-game :) ! i bet we all know the results,agree on no-nerf or if the nerf is needed -> no legacy items but ladders-wide-nerf ... :) Your arguments are flawed,broskis trolls & flamers & haters.
You people sayin disagree and/or trollin&bashin either have too much spare time imho & wanna bash ppl for the sake of art,talk just to talk, or are those rich bastards who hoard the items in case they become legacy and abuse them to EFFECTIVELY RUIN THIS VERY EPIC GAME ,Wich won't be so epic ;) . Can't wait to see your faces #%!%!#ers even if you sell your hoarded items later for benjaminz wich is dissalowed,you still damage the game & community even now by voting disagree. Can't wait to see your faces when this game becomes like D3 & other games because of ppl like BobbyKotick etc.

I can't freakin believe how much hopes i had in Chris Wilson & GGG team & defended this game over and over & praised it to everybody and what not ,and now the non fair-play of the game beeing added,lovely...just lovely.
Last edited by thegamingkage#0176 on Oct 22, 2013, 7:49:44 PM
1st: You lied in the original post by showing 6 Koam to gain credibility...and then when called out on it you dodged the question by saying "read the OP" or "read my response" where you, again simply dodged the question.

This behavior makes your entire argument/petition/whatever this is invalid. No one is going to believe someone is "speaking on behalf of hundreds" when they will so easily lie about their vestment in the subject to gain ground.

2nd: Quoting false rules and regulations of the terms of agreement will get you nowhere. It may get you laughed at...but GGG surely isn't going to start banning accounts because your getting your feelings hurt over people figuring out your a fraud.

3rd: GGG intentionally made 2 sets of play-modes to fit both types of play styles - Casual (being standard) and more-than-casual (ladder). If you feel that you need a fresh start then join the ladder...your items and character shifts into standard at the end anyways so you, literally, lose nothing by doing this.

The entire "legacy" item argument is invalid and I will youtube myself droping my BoR in town if GGG doesn't feel that same way. This is their game...and they have ALOT of other ARPG games to learn from...and they STILL made this decision. I'm sure they know what they are doing and the direction they want to go in. Not to say they don't listen to feedback...but not "zomg rage face me and my 3(00)friends gonna leave if you don't do what we want).

Clearly on topic...before you get the chance to quote some vague portion of the ToU at me.

Cheers!
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CrescentMoon wrote:
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HandsomeBear wrote:
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Azarius wrote:
I find it offensive, and I believe others do. This is a serious thread, and from the onset I said this was a thread about ONE ISSUE in particular. People are to VOTE via a PETITION. I can't believe how many times I have to reiterate this.


Regardless, the rules can't cater to everybody's triggers. People make a valid point and you choose to ignoring a lot of what people have to say. Which leads me to believe you made this thread only to have people agree with you, and shoot down everyone who don't.

Instead of answering posts by people who give you some genuine feedback you decide to focus on the trolls. Perhaps to make you look like a victim? Care to lend a thought to my post which you promptly ignored? ;)

My post
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HandsomeBear wrote:
I disagree.

The only thing I think they should do is to not allow them in PvP. Other than that I think it's completely pointless to remove them. I personally don't own one of these soon-to-be legacy items, except for a pair of Rainbowstrides, but quiet honestly they're not hurting anybody(except in PvP) so why remove them?

So that's what I think you should ask GGG for- banning these items from PvP. Furthermore, if you are, like you said, 300 members, your more casual players can easily get a hand from the more active players as regards gear and maps. I strongly doubt that you find competing in new leagues to be a problem at all unless your guild is filled with self-serving players. So, be a dear and tell everyone why you really want them removed/updated if, that is, you actually have a group of 240 people who want this.

Also, looking at who is whining and who is praising a certain decision from GGG is seldom a reliable source of the real numbers as people who are pleased with said decision usually don't feel the need to let everybody know how pleased they are. It's the people who want something to change that tend to get vocal about it on the forums.

Thoughts?

Than i bet my life you would be SCARED if the petition would be directly in-game :) ! i bet we all know the results,agree on no-nerf or if the nerf is needed -> no legacy items but ladders-wide-nerf ... :)


Actually, I've been on all day today talking to people in global chat 1-10, and I have also directed them here to this petition if they are interested in voicing their thoughts. I also know that some of them have mentioned to me they don't like to venture to the forums given the nature of, well, you know how it can get here. I don't blame them for feeling this way; however, I myself don't like to get into major debates that often... sometimes a guild leader has to do what is right for their guild even if they feel uncomfortable at times being in the 'cannon's mouth'. I seek not the bubble reputation, but I seek utilitarian resolution.
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Last edited by Azarius#0884 on Oct 22, 2013, 7:50:53 PM
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Azarius wrote:
I answered them various times, and the proof is all in my trade histories. I am here for my guild, and this is about a PETITION regarding issues(s) stated in my OP, so please stay on topic.


And again you completely ignore my post where I was on topic. I sincerely believe you're smarter than that and are just leading people on to promote your personal agenda, whatever it may be. Good day to you, this thread is a bad joke at best.
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