No Summoner!!!

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Lahhhray wrote:

My 3rd gen i5 w/ hd4000 laptop can't handle a discharger/summoner :(. I don't dc but I do lag like crazy.

You have integrated graphics, an I5 laptop that a 6 -7 year old duel core intel with a half desent graphic card would beat hands down, no wonder you have graphic lag in game.

I refuse to run maps with certain summoners. Seen a few people today/yesterday (I'm still awake) who ran 3 flame sentinels and dual GMP flame totems.

It makes my fps drop to single digits and isn't worth losing a character because you can't see anything in the 5 frames of solid red you get every second.

I believe most summoners could be decent support characters in groups, since they often have a lot of auras and curses. It's up to players to change their tactics when needed.
Of course, if you mostly use flame totems, that's not an option. I mean pure summoners only.

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Bozon wrote:

Summoners are nice fellas. Except those moments when you simply can not tell whats happening on the screen:

Spoiler

The great thing about summoners are, you don't need to know what's happening around you. If you can see the floor within your light radius you're doing it wrong :P

The funny thing is that summoners, no matter how crappy their pc is, get the same fps as they would while playing any other no-summoner character. The fps drop occurs only for the rest of the party. People with low end pcs should start a summoner to get some revenge imo.

Summoners could be a support if anyone needed it at all. They can only help to a party full of noobs, at the cost of lag and frame drop.
Melees prefer full melee parties for no lag, faster clearing speed and invulnerability when close to each other.
Bow users prefer playing with melees for no lag and using front chars as a shield.
Melees will accept rangers, because of their high dps output at the cost of minor lag they may cause sometimes (LA,PA).
Both melee and rangers will admire a non lag caster/aura supporter in team.
Casters/supporters will like the melees for same reasons as rangers do.
All of the above said categories spit on summoners and sporkers and prefer to kick them immediately, because they bring nothing useful, but incredible lag/frame drop, which makes them efficient team player killers.

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Stack21 wrote:

That's interesting. I've been in parties where sporkers will slow down the game, but never summoners. Are people's computers that bad or is it something that's not a client issue? Can the game itself, or the servers handling the game, not process everything at once?

I hear that the game still has particle problems with elemental effects, and lightning is one of the biggest offenders. This likely explains why sporkers kill your FPS.

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Elynole wrote:

If you can see the floor within your light radius you're doing it wrong :P

Sounds like The Summoner's Motto to me.

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Rogomatic wrote:

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Stack21 wrote:

That's interesting. I've been in parties where sporkers will slow down the game, but never summoners. Are people's computers that bad or is it something that's not a client issue? Can the game itself, or the servers handling the game, not process everything at once?

I hear that the game still has particle problems with elemental effects, and lightning is one of the biggest offenders. This likely explains why sporkers kill your FPS.

If you get 4 or more sporkers in a party together it will pretty much lag everyone, and as far as lightning goes, for the longest time lightning strike + multistrike completely destroyed fps in parties.

One summoner isn't a big deal for most as long as the are not using some obnoxious specters but again get more than one in a party and a full room of mobs and its just too much.

For some people their pc's are the problem but for others like myself it's far too many particle effects and something not being correct in gpu optimization.

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Elynole wrote:

Because Summoners can solo all content and people don't like to get their feelings hurt knowing they've made a character less capable.

^ hihi