Self-Found (League) [Thread outdated!]

ppl need to l2p

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Thaelyn wrote:

What's needed is a solution to the issues that prompted the request to begin with, not a place to hide from them.

See, I'm with Thaelyn and Scrotie on this, especially as the problems run so deep and get so much worse, that I don't think many SFLers realise just how bad it will still be at end game for them with the proposed changes for SFL.

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impotentwinnebago wrote:

How do you suggest it gets fixed? I can't personally see a solution to making crafting a viable option to trading as long as both are tied to the same items (orbs.)

I'm pretty sure Thaelyn, Scrotie and myself, have all, at different times said; that crafting orbs should be bound and not a currency.


BUT

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DijiGo wrote:

Unfortunately, to my knowledge there hasn't been even a poofteenth, of a bee's dick, of a skerrick of an admission from GGG that they consider trading/solo/self-found to be seriously wonky overall.

The closest they have come (recently) is perhaps better access to 4 links in the final act. They have even failed to grasp why people hoarded orbs, when they experimented with increased drop-rate ages ago.

They just - don't - see - a - problem. So what is there to "fix" from their viewpoint.

THIS^

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DijiGo wrote:

conundrum

Isn't it just?

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TheAnuhart wrote:

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DijiGo wrote:

conundrum

Isn't it just?

I edited my original post a tad, but yeah, I think people like me are basically fucked. QQ =)

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awrkeljflksdj wrote:

ppl need to l2p

I could agree with this, but likely not as you meant.

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awrkeljflksdj wrote:

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Account 3 hours old, 6 troll posts only.

No capitals used, 1 lonely full stop is the only punctuation, and...

I think we have finally found the bottom of the gene pool.

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DijiGo wrote:

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awrkeljflksdj wrote:

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Account 3 hours old, 6 troll posts only.

No capitals used, 1 lonely full stop is the only punctuation, and...

I think we have finally found the bottom of the gene pool.

Let him have fun, he enjoys this. Just ignore him lol

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Qarak wrote:

Let him have fun, he enjoys this. Just ignore him lol

You misunderstand, I was merely giving recognition to his uniqueness. =P

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DijiGo wrote:

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Qarak wrote:

Let him have fun, he enjoys this. Just ignore him lol

You misunderstand, I was merely giving recognition to his uniqueness. =P

¯\_^o^_/¯ ok.

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impotentwinnebago wrote:

For those of you saying "SFL isn't the answer, fixing the problems that exist in the current leagues is the answer" How do you suggest it gets fixed? I can't personally see a solution to making crafting a viable option to trading as long as both are tied to the same items (orbs.) I would love to hear some suggestions though, as I surely haven't thought of everything.

If you check the first page further than the first post,
you'll recognize an overview of other players suggestions.


Reminder:

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Disclaimer wrote:

I request from the participants of this discussion that we respect each others points,
avoid breaking forum rules at all costs and be as constructive as possible.

Please avoid nasty buzzwords which tend to initiate arguments.
I don't claim credit for any points or suggestions discussed in here.

If you want to contribute to this thread anonymously, PM me your response.
I will add it to the discussion accordingly.

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UPDATE:
I would welcome even more actual first hand self-found feedback.
Remember to share your average time spend in-game,
as well as points in-game which were hard to overcome.
It would be really valuable if you could state how long it took to overcome this points.
Tell us about your builds, equipment and so on.
Everything that could matter balancing wise!
Don't forget to mention if you play solo exclusively!

The thread title was adjusted (MAJOR WORK RIGHT THERE). As some may have realized,
I worked on the overall first posts to reflect a broader self-found player sentiment.
If anyone misses something in the first 5 posts, please let me know.


If a Dev reads this:

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Nightmare90 wrote:

This thread may be moved to an appropriate subforum by a Dev.
By now it is obvious that there is heavy interest in this topic.
The purpose of it being in General Discussion is served.

If General Discussion is still appropriate, nevermind. ;)


Thanks everyone for being mostly cool in here.
I am sure Support is thankful too.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

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I don't think many SFLers realise just how bad it will still be at end game for them with the proposed changes for SFL

This is absolutely right and one reason why I don't believe any exodus, should there be one from the existing leagues, would be anything other than short-lived.

Unfortunately, whilst it's undeniable the game needs some significant TLC, particularly with regard to crafting and trading, I don't believe GGG will entertain the idea of changing some of the core components in any substantial way.