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There is already self-found gameplay. Why does it matter what other people have?

If you want to play self-found nothing is stopping you. Don't use the shared stash, don't trade, and don't group with people for the boosted IIR/IIQ.

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Wraeclastian wrote:

There is already self-found gameplay. Why does it matter what other people have?

If you want to play self-found nothing is stopping you. Don't use the shared stash, don't trade, and don't group with people for the boosted IIR/IIQ.

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Self found experience in the existing leagues sucks, especially when you get to the endgame.

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Wraeclastian wrote:

There is already self-found gameplay. Why does it matter what other people have?

If you want to play self-found nothing is stopping you. Don't use the shared stash, don't trade, and don't group with people for the boosted IIR/IIQ.

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Please read this entire thread or the The Self Found League in Suggestions before posting. Your argument has been discussed and debunked countless times.

@Wraeclastian

How on earth does the statement 'nobody is stopping you from playing self found' have anything to do with him saying self found sucks at end game?

@Sneakypaw

Just wondering what your Orb exchanges rates are for Chrom:Ex/Jew:Ex/Fuse:ex atm?
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Thanks!

Thanks everyone for the participation!
I will update the first post over the course of the day!

Just as a reminder:

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UPDATE:
I would welcome even more actual first hand self-found feedback.
Remember to share your average time spend in-game,
as well as points in-game which were hard to overcome.
It would be really valuable if you could state how long it took to overcome this points.
Tell us about your builds, equipment and so on.
Everything that could matter balancing wise!
Don't forget to mention if you play solo exclusively!

Concerning drop-rate discussions which are sadly very repetitive:

In my first post I wrote the following:

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Based on this points I suggest the introduction of a (Solo?) Short-time Self-found League.
The Self Found League could have modified droprates to ease crafting capabilities.
After the end of the league, all characters and items will be transferred to the Void League.

I want to emphasize the word could.
There are different stances even under self-found players concerning this.
Feedback shows that current droprates are workable until different points of the game
probably also depending on player skill and build choice.

I believe that GGG, once they implement more self-found support,
will be able to judge if droprate modifications are needed or not.
They have the statistics in the end. We don't.


We can help them with qualitative feedback to make possible problems apparent
or give other suggestions which could affect self-found quality.

Let's keep the replies as constructive as possible
so they don't have to fight other the same points again and again.

I have to wonder how many of the people that say " Why do you need a league? You can already play self-found." have bitched about how GGG needs to implement a better trade system. I mean, why do you need a better trade system? You can already trade if you want to.

Answer to both questions: because it would improve the gameplay experience for people.

I would have to hear a really compelling argument for why droprates shouldn't be adjusted in a SFL before I could consider a SFL without adjusted droprates to be anything other than a joke. It seems pretty self-evident that droprates are balanced with trading in mind, so a league without trading should have different droprates.

Hello here,




Would not a seperate league with increased drops kill the game ?


let me explain my fear :



If people know that, on standard and HC and other leagues you will probably never find an exalted orb and certainly never ever find a mirror.. and you will aswell not find enough fus/chrom. When There is ANOTHER LEAGUE where everything is much easier..


Would player stop craving to beat poe difficulty on other leagues then get bored then leave ?


I don't know, you don't know, no one know for real.. Just throwing my fear out there!

So, if you plan to make a self-found league : please think carefully before you do ggg.


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