Self-Found (League) [Thread outdated!]

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Broxxxigar wrote:

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Peenk wrote:

Wouldn't work because of skill gems. I mean I haven't had one Multistrike drop since I played, so that would mean any melee build is out of reach.

no offence but this comment is so stupid that i have no words....

How the fuck is it stupid lol? Unless all gems are sold in a shop, then you can't make a specific build without first farming all the needed gems.. Your reply is the only stupid thing here kid.

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DirkAustin wrote:

If people wanna play self found there is no reason to compare yourself to others on a ladder that makes only sense if you're trading.

I think races fill that role. They are short enough to not promote trading and long enough to climb up the ladder with SF gear.

I don't understand why you care if there is a league or not. Why you are against player choice doesn't make sense to me. While I wish GGG would make a dedicated league, once the custom leagues come out it will be 5 seconds before one is created.

So it's pretty irrelevant either way. It would have just been nice if GGG listened to an extremely large portion of the player base asking for SFL.

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DarthSki44 wrote:

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DirkAustin wrote:

If people wanna play self found there is no reason to compare yourself to others on a ladder that makes only sense if you're trading.

I think races fill that role. They are short enough to not promote trading and long enough to climb up the ladder with SF gear.

I don't understand why you care if there is a league or not. Why you are against player choice doesn't make sense to me. While I wish GGG would make a dedicated league, once the custom leagues come out it will be 5 seconds before one is created.

So it's pretty irrelevant either way. It would have just been nice if GGG listened to an extremely large portion of the player base asking for SFL.

It's not an extremely large portion of the player base. Did you see when people wanted loot allocation? That was a large portion, and you could easily tell from all the posts.

These SFL-threads are probably 50% bumping and people don't even agree on how the SFL should work. Some wants to be able to play in parties some don't etc. So GGG should actually make several different SFL leagues to satisfy this bunch of people.

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ongZ wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

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DirkAustin wrote:

If people wanna play self found there is no reason to compare yourself to others on a ladder that makes only sense if you're trading.

I think races fill that role. They are short enough to not promote trading and long enough to climb up the ladder with SF gear.

I don't understand why you care if there is a league or not. Why you are against player choice doesn't make sense to me. While I wish GGG would make a dedicated league, once the custom leagues come out it will be 5 seconds before one is created.

So it's pretty irrelevant either way. It would have just been nice if GGG listened to an extremely large portion of the player base asking for SFL.

It's not an extremely large portion of the player base. Did you see when people wanted loot allocation? That was a large portion, and you could easily tell from all the posts.

These SFL-threads are probably 50% bumping and people don't even agree on how the SFL should work. Some wants to be able to play in parties some don't etc. So GGG should actually make several different SFL leagues to satisfy this bunch of people.

There is no way to know the actual number of players wanting SFL, so I was intentionally vague. My guess it's in the many thousands, but we will find out eventually.

Edit: As a side note all I was saying was I am disappointed that GGG didn't create a league. Once the custom leagues are out, we will have a place to play.

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ongZ wrote:

It's not an extremely large portion of the player base.

lol n1

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DirkAustin wrote:

This. If people wanna play self found there is no reason to compare yourself to others on a ladder that makes only sense if you're trading.

I think races fill that role. They are short enough to not promote trading and long enough to climb up the ladder with SF gear.

What the fuck are you talking about? It makes no sense for me to want to compare my self found achievements against other peoples self found achievements but it would make sense for traders?

Never mind the fact that self found and solo are TOTALLY FUCKING DIFFERENT.

The races do NOT fill that role. I want to frigging have a league where I can, say, have a fair race to 100 since I dont enjoy building up social groups for pooling map currency.

Where I can compete on an even footing with everyone because I dont enjoy trading and flipping instead of actually PLAYING the game.

Where I can join other players in groups who I know are under these same punishing circumstances.

Hi

I missed yesterday bump x 2 for SFL

I am all for this type of a league, people that think it would be easy clearly don't understand how easy this game becomes with trading, most if not all SFL wanting players aren't interested in having uber stuff they just want to play the game without needing to have trade chat spamming, and to have orb drops at a balanced level to actually craft viably(although I would enjoy a step further in the direction of new orbs and recipes to allow less random crafting) as the game plays now a player will go days without seeing a chaos or alchemy, How are you supposed to craft with these low drops? Perhaps GGG could just start getting monsters to drop orb fragments?

I am waiting to see what new changes in drops and such like will occur on full release perhaps this issue will be fixed enough to do exactly what some naysayers have suggested, perhaps SFL will be viable in the new format without a separate league, we shall see.

Till then suggested idea of SFL:

1)No trades with other players.2)No mf rolls on blue or yellow items.3)Increased orb drops NOT items.4)No party benefits, permanent loot allocation.5)New recipes and specialized orbs.

cheers

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ongZ wrote:

It's not an extremely large portion of the player base. Did you see when people wanted loot allocation? That was a large portion, and you could easily tell from all the posts.

Whats funny and interesting about this is that we were constantly accused of being a small loud group.

Much like the self found people here....

Edit: I actually doubt this league will ever be made, I think the devs are intent on making the current game better for everyone. Hench why in their latest balance notes they will be making it easier to link your gear.

+1 for selffound league!

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ongZ wrote:

It's not an extremely large portion of the player base. Did you see when people wanted loot allocation? That was a large portion, and you could easily tell from all the posts.

I can tell you this. There are a lot of people in other forum like grim dawn, runic where people dont want to play PoE at all because of this reason. Drop rates and need to trade or farm a lot. This game has similar problems diablo 3 has.