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I will weigh in again...
SFL = Death of RMT CW =/= SFL CW = RMT? Not really of course but SFL kills RMT. The only possible downside to SFL is more fractured base which is already gractured. Make SFL parent Void League so nothing happening in SFL would affect any other part of the game. Crafting doesn't exist in POE. Gambling does...and the house always wins.
Velocireptile - I LOL'ed. Which made me fart. I wish the office were empty right now :( Hardlicker - I had to push the dog out of the way so I could get to the sexy quilt. |
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I would propose the drop rate of currency be adjusted. The availability of currency will also cause the trade market rates to inflate, but players will assuredly be using the market less due to RNGing their own gear.
This potentially ruins the gameplay of trade players, however... |
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"The biggest downside is that it fails to properly identify the core problem, and thus fails to identify the proper solution. Don't get me wrong here: there are a lot of you. Something has irritated all of you. There is a problem. It's just that it's not properly identified. So, what is it? It can't be only that trading is distasteful. If that was the only problem, you'd simply opt not to use it. So that's not it. It can't be that trading is overpowered. Trading follows the Law of Conservation of Loot — although one player might profit, the global profit of all players added together is zero. So that's not it. What is it, then? That the game is pushing you to trade. It might not be OP to trade, but it is an expected function. Saying "vendoring is OP" is ludicrous, but it's no stretch to say it's required, and a similar argument could be made about trading. So then ask yourself: what pushes players to trade? What mechanic transforms this from a truly optional behavior, into an expected one? While you're at it, ask yourself if removing the ability to perform an action (trading, in this case), without removing the push — the mechanic in the game which causes that behavior to be expected — is really a good thing, or sealing up the one valve that was used to relieve all that pressure which was building up, and thus making the situation even worse. If, for some reason, we aimed to remove the pressure on players to vendor items, would the answer be simply to remove the vendors and replace it with nothing, or just say "fuck it" and increase drop rates in compensation? Would that really make the game better? When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Oct 13, 2013, 10:17:32 AM
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" How is RMT affecting you in any way? Oh, right... you get your panties in a bunch whenever someone else is better than you. Why can't you just keep your head down and play? You're a jealous creature, and it stinks. It's putrid. |
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"RMT pirates have been around in Eve Online for essentially forever. In that game, purchasing in-game items has a significant impact on PVP gameplay out in the reaches of nullspace. Eve Online still exists, and is growing larger. I don't believe RMT is a huge issue; it should be considered a pleasant side-effect, but not worth weighing as a proponent in the SFL question. |
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If POE were EVE, in the sense that there was open-PVP... then yes, RMT would affect me and everyone else. But POE is not open-PVP, so it doesn't matter how badass the next guy is. IT DOESN'T MATTER! Let them be wearing epic-godly-L33t +1000% MF armor that they bought for $600 on Ebay. It doesn't change anything. Don't say that SFL would eliminate RMT... because who cares? RMT should be none of your concern. (directed @ whomever posted about SFL ridding of RMT) Last edited by mcadamry#2027 on Oct 13, 2013, 10:25:19 AM
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" Reported for RMT botter :) Crafting doesn't exist in POE. Gambling does...and the house always wins.
Velocireptile - I LOL'ed. Which made me fart. I wish the office were empty right now :( Hardlicker - I had to push the dog out of the way so I could get to the sexy quilt. |
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" If GGG doesn't like RMT then it is clearly an issue. Crafting doesn't exist in POE. Gambling does...and the house always wins.
Velocireptile - I LOL'ed. Which made me fart. I wish the office were empty right now :( Hardlicker - I had to push the dog out of the way so I could get to the sexy quilt. |
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" Grow up. GGG doesn't like RMT because it cuts into their profits. Who do you think sells the items so cheaply on those RMT sites? Didn't you learn from Blizzard and D2? They print the items and sell them, and then swear that they don't. RMT is crusaded against because they can't be having botters selling items cheaper than they are. Geeze, don't you know anything about how people in power work? If they really were innocent, defeating RMT would be as easy as setting up a couple fake websites, putting them up on google and selling orbs + gear for pennies, getting a decent customer base and then banning all accounts and IP's who came to shop. RMT over. But trust me, this will never happen. Believe what you want. |
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"LOL, as if IP bans would do a damn thing. But I digress. From now on, you are on citizen hellban. No one else in this thread is to reply to your posts or acknowledge your existence from here on. I do not want anyone wasting time trying to talk you out of your tinfoil-hat insanity, because frankly it wouldn't work anyway; you seem pretty stubborn about it. So let's just not waste the time and ignore you. Completely.
My on-topic post from the previous page
"The biggest downside is that it fails to properly identify the core problem, and thus fails to identify the proper solution. Don't get me wrong here: there are a lot of you. Something has irritated all of you. There is a problem. It's just that it's not properly identified. So, what is it? It can't be only that trading is distasteful. If that was the only problem, you'd simply opt not to use it. So that's not it. It can't be that trading is overpowered. Trading follows the Law of Conservation of Loot — although one player might profit, the global profit of all players added together is zero. So that's not it. What is it, then? That the game is pushing you to trade. It might not be OP to trade, but it is an expected function. Saying "vendoring is OP" is ludicrous, but it's no stretch to say it's required, and a similar argument could be made about trading. So then ask yourself: what pushes players to trade? What mechanic transforms this from a truly optional behavior, into an expected one? While you're at it, ask yourself if removing the ability to perform an action (trading, in this case), without removing the push — the mechanic in the game which causes that behavior to be expected — is really a good thing, or sealing up the one valve that was used to relieve all that pressure which was building up, and thus making the situation even worse. If, for some reason, we aimed to remove the pressure on players to vendor items, would the answer be simply to remove the vendors and replace it with nothing, or just say "fuck it" and increase drop rates in compensation? Would that really make the game better? When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Oct 13, 2013, 10:40:50 AM
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