Self-Found (League) [Thread outdated!]

One question: is that Self-found league supposed to be HC / SC or both?
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iamstryker wrote:
And yet there were still people against changing the loot system who called us minorities like you did above. They were very wrong and people against SFL might be wrong as well. There are regular threads complaining about bad crafting/RNG and poor drop rates. Also plenty complaining about trading. You can consider most of these threads to be people who would support a self found league. When you think about it like that its a lot bigger than you might think.

There was only the same 3 or 4 people complaining about how they enjoyed ganking drops by using cheap tactics like frostwall. They were in fact the minority. Not only on the forums but in the game also. Don't you remember how almost every game said "ninjas will be kicked"?

Trading, crafting, and RNG are more important issues than needing a self-found league also. A self-found league is the most unimportant thing the game could possibly need because you can play that way already.
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C1111 wrote:
maybe if you pay 12.5k to ggg they make your self found league


I already offered.
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Novalisk wrote:
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iamstryker wrote:
There are regular threads complaining about bad crafting/RNG and poor drop rates. Also plenty complaining about trading. You can consider most of these threads to be people who would support a self found league.


How can you assume that, when SFL doesn't fix these issues?


I think a SFL would address much of the complaints, hence why the idea of a SFL is so popular.
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iamstryker wrote:
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Novalisk wrote:
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iamstryker wrote:
There are regular threads complaining about bad crafting/RNG and poor drop rates. Also plenty complaining about trading. You can consider most of these threads to be people who would support a self found league.


How can you assume that, when SFL doesn't fix these issues?


I think a SFL would address much of the complaints.


It wouldn't address them at all for people who want a better self-found experience on standard, hardcore, new softcore ladder, and new hardcore ladder.

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Novalisk wrote:



True, thats why I hope the game improves all around but a SFL would still be wanted because I don't see the problems ever being completely fixed, just lessoned somewhat.
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Wraeclastian wrote:
A self-found league is the most unimportant thing the game could possibly need because you can play that way already.


No, you can't. That's the point. You can't PLAY this way already. You can TRY to play this way, but the drop rates are too low to make your char progress.

This game is designed with trading in mind. You are meant to be trading - making a self found player a forever grinding idiot, due to the need of 2000+ fusings and 1000+ chromatics a must for progression.

With todays drop rates, how many in game hours will it take to get 2000 fusings?

Anywhore, there are A LOT of players who do not want to trade, but is forced to, due to the lack of drops. Are these players worth less than others?
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phrazz wrote:

No, you can't. That's the point. You can't PLAY this way already. You can TRY to play this way, but the drop rates are too low to make your char progress.

This game is designed with trading in mind. You are meant to be trading - making a self found player a forever grinding idiot, due to the need of 2000+ fusings and 1000+ chromatics a must for progression.

With todays drop rates, how many in game hours will it take to get 2000 fusings?

Anywhore, there are A LOT of players who do not want to trade, but is forced to, due to the lack of drops. Are these players worth less than others?


Straight up lies, son. Obviously, the game is going to be more difficult if you don't trade, and grinding for drops is what ARPG's like this are all about. There are plenty of people who play self-found already and don't bitch about it. You don't really want a self-found league, you want an ez-mode league. If GGG has any sense they might tweak the drop rates a little but they won't add an ez-mode self-found league.
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