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Ozsmeg wrote:

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You don't want a self-found league. You just want better drop rates.

Wraeclastian and Reinhart.

The principle point of those wanting self found play improvements (whether through a new league or adjustments to existing ones), by and large has nothing to do with being "on equal footing" with other players who trade or play more. Granted, there are likely some who support the ideas for those reasons, but they do not represent the majority motivation on the matter.

People who want better self found play want it because the game presents you with roadblocks that are all but insurmountable without trade or a dose of luck akin to hitting a powerball jackpot. We want a way to get around these roadblocks to continue enjoying the game without having to buy our progress in game or facing an utterly demoralizing slog through hundreds of hours of the same content hoping to get a lucky drop that usually never comes. It's not being jealous of people who post on the forums or of streamers. It's about making measurable, even if incremental, progress toward whatever goals we set for ourselves in game.

Right now the game doesn't support us doing that in any meaningful way. Yes, it's a game about grinding, but what we're after is a steep hill upon which we can continue to climb even if at a slow pace. Right now all we have is a treadmill that keeps us stationary.

That's why "just don't trade" isn't the answer.

There is nothing wrong with the current system and all I see are complaints because it is difficult to get godly drops.

You all want that godly gear but don't want to put in the time or effort.

The smart people don't complain and just make a character that focuses on IIQ/IIR to farm. Why can't you do the same?

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Wraeclastian wrote:

There is nothing wrong with the current system and all I see are complaints because it is difficult to get godly drops.

You all want that godly gear but don't want to put in the time or effort.

The smart people don't complain and just make a character that focuses on IIQ/IIR to farm. Why can't you do the same?

What about incremental equates to godly in your mind? Are you even able to think critically, or are you one of the mindless morons who can't seem to think past the end of his nose?

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Thaelyn wrote:

What about incremental equates to godly in your mind? Are you even able to think critically, or are you one of the mindless morons who can't seem to think past the end of his nose?

It is sad that you have to resort to personal attacks because people don't agree with your way of thinking.

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Wraeclastian wrote:

There is nothing wrong with the current system and all I see are complaints because it is difficult to get godly drops.

You all want that godly gear but don't want to put in the time or effort.

The smart people don't complain and just make a character that focuses on IIQ/IIR to farm. Why can't you do the same?

This is why you shouldn't stereotype. Making assumptions doesn't help anything and further blocks real discussion.

FYI, your above post is just a nicer way to personally attack people you disagree with.

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Wraeclastian wrote:

There is nothing wrong with the current system and all I see are complaints because it is difficult to get godly drops.

You all want that godly gear but don't want to put in the time or effort.

The smart people don't complain and just make a character that focuses on IIQ/IIR to farm. Why can't you do the same?

I don't want godly drops sir. I leveled to 88 in anarchy with self used all currency on maps. You don't need godly gear to play end game. All you need is max resists and decent def or don't die to stupid shit and you will level easy.

For me I want self found for ladder ranking. RMT kinda kills it a little bit knowing many people who buy shit for mapping. Once you see who hang in this game year after year like d2 was. It's about ladder my friend.

Here is my ranger set of gear which I did currently switch gems to alt and sold my chest and bow cause not playing anymore trying to see if I like another spec to new league.

But this gear lasted me the entire 4 months off and on again playing many alts and onslaught as well.

Had a 5-6 link chest and lionseyes which I don't have anymore. But the rings and ammy I had found lvling got awesome rolls for ilvl 40-50ish, played solo or with other person mapping.

The 5 advocates for a self-found league who keep bumping the thread in hopes of GGG putting it in the game isn't going to make a difference.

A self-found league would neither help or fix anything.

I would rather GGG put time and resources into fixing things like desync before wasting time on a league that isn't needed.

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Wraeclastian wrote:

The number of people who actually want a self-found league are probably 1% of the population at most.

People said the same kind of thing about people who were against the old competitive looting system.

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Wraeclastian wrote:

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Thaelyn wrote:

What about incremental equates to godly in your mind? Are you even able to think critically, or are you one of the mindless morons who can't seem to think past the end of his nose?

It is sad that you have to resort to personal attacks because people don't agree with your way of thinking.

Shockingly enough, I'm back here to acknowledge that you are right. My reply was uncalled for and I apologize.

I will still ask of you, though, to allow yourself to conceive of motivations beyond the simple short sighted one you assign to all of us. If you want to pretend to be the bigger man, after the baseless assumptions and aspersions you cast, that is.