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MierenEronaile wrote:

@Wraeclastian

Yep, telling the devs what we think would be good for the game to have during the games fucking Beta is useless.

Right.

Some people...

You have to remember that the people on the forums represent a very small percentage of the players. The number of people who actually want a self-found league are probably 1% of the population at most.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

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Wraeclastian wrote:

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MierenEronaile wrote:

So yea, im an advocate of SFL and im already on that equal footing you are talking about(Made 7 exalts today. Was fun, two dropped, heartbreaker dropped, and I sold two 20/20 gems I leveled this week.)

LOL, there is nothing self-found about what you just described.

No, but there is about my 3200+ hours self found, no trade, solo.
Pop on my stream if you want and we'll talk about your solution. You can also see me MFing Lunaris for around 100 hours to attempt to roll a 77 map. Then maybe see me run it which will take all of 20 mins.

If your idea of a harcore aRPG is facerolling lowball content for hour upon hour upon hour to try to open a gate to challenge, well don't bother, we have nothing to discuss. If not, then we have something to discuss about your alternative to trading.

Wasting effort, he doesnt actually want to consider anything but him being correct.

Futility.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

No, but there is about my 3200+ hours self found, no trade, solo.
Pop on my stream if you want and we'll talk about your solution. You can also see me MFing Lunaris for around 100 hours to attempt to roll a 77 map. Then maybe see me run it which will take all of 20 mins.

If your idea of a harcore aRPG is facerolling lowball content for hour upon hour upon hour to try to open a gate to challenge, well don't bother, we have nothing to discuss. If not, then we have something to discuss about your alternative to trading.

Nice attempt at getting a viewer on your channel but no thanks. You want self-found, then complain about maps and trading...

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Wraeclastian wrote:

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TheAnuhart wrote:

No, but there is about my 3200+ hours self found, no trade, solo.
Pop on my stream if you want and we'll talk about your solution. You can also see me MFing Lunaris for around 100 hours to attempt to roll a 77 map. Then maybe see me run it which will take all of 20 mins.

If your idea of a harcore aRPG is facerolling lowball content for hour upon hour upon hour to try to open a gate to challenge, well don't bother, we have nothing to discuss. If not, then we have something to discuss about your alternative to trading.

Nice attempt at getting a viewer on your channel but no thanks. You want self-found, then complain about maps and trading...

I don't want viewers, I don't advertise and I don't accept donations, my stream is simply because I can and so if people want, they can see the flaw in your proposal.

In actual fact, I don't want SFL, not any more, because I know how fkd this game model is and how the end game wouldn't be fixed with SFL.

I was challenging your solution, period.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

In actual fact, I don't want SFL, not any more, because I know how fkd this game model is and how the end game wouldn't be fixed with SFL.

I was challenging your solution, period.

What solution did I present? I just said that it is pointless to make a self-found league because you can already play that way if you wanted to.

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Wraeclastian wrote:

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TheAnuhart wrote:

In actual fact, I don't want SFL, not any more, because I know how fkd this game model is and how the end game wouldn't be fixed with SFL.

I was challenging your solution, period.

What solution did I present? I just said that it is pointless to make a self-found league because you can already play that way if you wanted to.

You answered your own question.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

You answered your own question.

So how exactly did you challenge my solution by complaining about RNG and trading?

I agree that a self-found league itself is pretty pointless, but balancing the game so that self-found isn't torture is worthy of discussion.

What most selfies want is to take the game offline so that they could eliminate desync. The developers are afraid for some reason that if they allow offline play they will ruin their game. I don't see it.

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Wraeclastian wrote:

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TheAnuhart wrote:

You answered your own question.

So how exactly did you challenge my solution by complaining about RNG and trading?

I suspect he was pointing out that in fact, you can not play solo self found atm if you want to reach true end game.

Especially if you wanted to craft true end game items.

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Wraeclastian wrote:

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TheAnuhart wrote:

You answered your own question.

So how exactly did you challenge my solution by complaining about RNG and trading?

Where did I mention RNG? I love RNG.

As for trading, well duh!!

People want a no trade league (which I personally don't think is possible in PoE)

You, likely don't think it is, too. Or at least you object to the proposal.
But your reason is flawed, you state you can just 'not trade'. Which, with an amount of time, is true to begin with. The amount of time may or may not be suitable to different people. In actual fact, to me, it was suitable. It meant I could play this path of least resistance shopping game in a more hardcore way and a way that would utilise my time where the shopping model wouldn't. It would also give challenge and put me at the mercy of RNG (hey look!!), the need to struggle, the need to prioritise items and stats that I have available. It would also mean that for me to overcome challenging walls in my way, I have to put in effort, combat, build choice and bang my head against it. That's great.

I did all that, I now outlevel and outgear any none gated content, hell I faceroll 77s.
But now the alternative to shopping is faceroll lowball.

It's a problem.