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deftwish wrote:
There's no need to troll Lethal's feedback thread with a rant about life vs. es. He said almost none of the things you're arguing about and there's no reason to be insulting.
His point that builds still depend heavily on stacking life/es nodes is valid. The life/es rebalance didn't change builds at all.
As for the ease of obtaining base es vs. life, outside of Kaom's, I don't see any chests with more than 120 hp, but there are lots of 500-1000+ es 5L/6L chests around.
The game clearly still needs (and will always need) more balancing, and ES/life is just a tiny piece of Lethal's feedback.
So Chests only provide life now? Last time I checked it was a prefix that you rolled additionally to Energy Shields counterpart stats (Armour/ER).
Did they change that?
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Posted bynynyny#3398on Aug 24, 2013, 2:02:49 PM
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Very nice feedback,I'd sign that with all the others.
And yeah, please guys, don't turn this nice post into another life vs ES thread, it's the best way to ensure no dev will ever read it.
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Posted byRenahud#7780on Aug 24, 2013, 2:03:29 PM
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Renahud wrote:
Very nice feedback,I'd sign that with all the others.
And yeah, please guys, don't turn this nice post into another life vs ES thread, it's the best way to ensure no dev will ever read it.
Beyond the first page? Maybe. Good thing all the info is in the first post!
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Nicholas_Steel wrote:
Beyond the first page? Maybe. Good thing all the info is in the first post!
Hmm yeah, you've got a point here :)
But still, this topic has been discussed all over the place a hundred time, I'd be suprised if new arguments showed up. But whatever, if the OP wants to discuss it, it's probably not my business...
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Posted byRenahud#7780on Aug 24, 2013, 2:15:19 PM
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I agree with all the points that Lethal brings up because it's something we've all brought up one time or another, myself included.
Frankly, PoE needs so much more work to bring everything up to par and in a palatable state. Currently, it is far from that and I can't see how this game will fare as incomplete as it is at launch, when the "Open Beta" tag is dropped and is no longer an excuse to be wielded around.
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Posted byIslidox#7754on Aug 24, 2013, 2:26:53 PM
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I legitimately can't tell if nynyny is an ES user who doesn't want life builds to be as powerful as es (and you have to either have little knowledge about the game or be mentally deficient to think that life is even close to ES), or if he's a life user that is massively delusional about the power of ES.
There is no way you can deny the ridiculous power gap between ES and Life, unless you are delusional, can't do math, or don't know enough about the game.
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Posted byXendran#1127on Aug 24, 2013, 2:53:10 PM
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Xendran wrote:
I legitimately can't tell if nynyny is an ES user who doesn't want life builds to be as powerful as es (and you have to either have little knowledge about the game or be mentally deficient to think that life is even close to ES), or if he's a life user that is massively delusional about the power of ES.
There is no way you can deny the ridiculous power gap between ES and Life, unless you are delusional, can't do math, or don't know enough about the game.
Agreed +1
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Posted byiamstryker#5952on Aug 24, 2013, 5:12:19 PM
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Found the answer: He's a low life shavronne's user trying to keep the immense superiority over other people that use life builds.
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Evlesoa wrote:
It's RNG; you can't possibly say they're better because of it. I guarantee that the amount it takes someone to buy a Shav's is much less than to find it or get enough currency.
How come that, including me, there are a lot of people who farmed enough currency for multiple Shavronnes in multiple league then?
I never had one dropped, yet I was able to afford the item in Hardcore and Onslaught, something you apparently cant even accomplish once in Standard. So we, in fact, are better and more dedicated players. Something you could easily accomplish as well if you had the dedication which you apparently lack.
Shavronnes isnt inaccessible, there are just a bunch of people, like yourself, who think it should be handed to them on a silver plate.
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Posted byXendran#1127on Aug 24, 2013, 5:43:54 PM
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Xendran wrote:
Found the answer: He's a low life shavronne's user trying to keep the immense superiority over other people that use life builds.
What makes your opinion, as a person who is not using the robe, less biased (which is apprently what youre implying)?
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Posted bynynyny#3398on Aug 24, 2013, 6:41:24 PM
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nynyny wrote:
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Xendran wrote:
Found the answer: He's a low life shavronne's user trying to keep the immense superiority over other people that use life builds.
What makes your opinion, as a person who is not using the robe, less biased (which is apprently what youre implying)?
You just claimed that ES being better than life is an opinion.
I don't have to say anything more.
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Posted byXendran#1127on Aug 24, 2013, 6:43:25 PM
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