Ice Shot

I flash clear stuff with my HC iceshot build, this is my 4th bow user above level 70 and its by far the fastest for clearing. So, no it doesn't need any buffs and it isn't the worst bow skill, that is a ridiculous over exaggeration. Its mana cost is really high with good supports, but thats what blood magic is great for (its tough to support otherwise as mana leech from gear/passives doesn't help IS pretty much at all).

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habbey wrote:

I flash clear stuff with my HC iceshot build, this is my 4th bow user above level 70 and its by far the fastest for clearing. So, no it doesn't need any buffs and it isn't the worst bow skill, that is a ridiculous over exaggeration. Its mana cost is really high with good supports, but thats what blood magic is great for (its tough to support otherwise as mana leech from gear/passives doesn't help IS pretty much at all).

Could you link your build please?

Ice shot couldn't even beat out split arrow in the ice shot build I made. I switched to LA and using all my cold dmg gear it is still easily 2x as good with more survivability. I didn't think I was exaggerating considering I've made rangers over time with every skill (burning/roa, ice/split, lightning/frenzy, poison/split).

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habbey wrote:

I flash clear stuff with my HC iceshot build, this is my 4th bow user above level 70 and its by far the fastest for clearing. So, no it doesn't need any buffs and it isn't the worst bow skill, that is a ridiculous over exaggeration. Its mana cost is really high with good supports, but thats what blood magic is great for (its tough to support otherwise as mana leech from gear/passives doesn't help IS pretty much at all).

Show me your build plz. I wanna see this HC iceshot build that can clear end game content.

Maybe even show us a video doing a 77+ map that be great.

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huyrawr wrote:

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habbey wrote:

I flash clear stuff with my HC iceshot build, this is my 4th bow user above level 70 and its by far the fastest for clearing. So, no it doesn't need any buffs and it isn't the worst bow skill, that is a ridiculous over exaggeration. Its mana cost is really high with good supports, but thats what blood magic is great for (its tough to support otherwise as mana leech from gear/passives doesn't help IS pretty much at all).

Show me your build plz. I wanna see this HC iceshot build that can clear end game content.

Maybe even show us a video doing a 77+ map that be great.

Sorry, I moved and and my net is really bad now so I can't play any more really (at least not on high level guys). Also, I haven't done the highest levels of maps as I solo and don't play non-stop, however judging by how it fairs versus the other bow skills (while solo at the lower map levels) it is in no way the worst skill.

Also I don't post builds as I like them to stay unique.

And my last disclaimer is that what I say was true prepatch, its possible my split arrow guy actually clears faster now because of the phys buffs, but I doubt it.

Right now my friend has a standard char and went all dmg nodes

LA still out perform Ice shot by far so i wanna know what you did different...

My Onslaught build i been planning would be a CI crit build since for some reason ice shot does compare to lightning arrow at all even with alot of bow physical nodes. Since ice shot converts dmg.


When PoE first came out... i tried Iceshot this was back when LA was just OP.

I switch to LA since Ice shot was shit compare to it and was laggy.

It still feel the asme way unless there is a secret.

Ice Arrow not popular (easy say and must be somewhere statistic with 100% most lowest popular skill as Ice Arrow) Its totaly not popular and not good skill as he is right now; + not very useful (very low dmg and little slow don't compensate low dmg) and much more. So Ice Arrow need buff, for a long time wait for buff.
Ideas:
Add chance to Freeze and Increased area to Freeze/Chill and durations.
With new changes for Ranger Skill Tree can just add some nodes (3-7) with chance to Freeze or more Chill duration only with Bow and ice dmg from weapons -> its don't make big changes for other ice spells and don't ruin balance with DMG or other, but make more useful builds with Ice Arrow.
I think its changes perfect for Ranger Start Tree + little buff for very not popular and low dmg skill w/o making buff for skill themselves.

And somehow to buff quality for Ice Arrow with Freeze/More CHill...

That make more usefull and popular for bow user to choose that skill and not a RoA or LA (They are main now).

I will say that Ice shot's quality needs a change, even taking full advantage of the ground ice a duration bonus on that does not compare with like 10% AS or 20% inc AoE that other skills get.

Also as far as the lag goes, ya it lags a lot of people's computer, luckily it doesn't lag mine at all.

@huywer and i pmed you.

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habbey wrote:

"I flash clear stuff with my HC iceshot build, this is my 4th bow user above level 70 and its by far the fastest for clearing."

This is whats killing me i dont understand how you can flash clear stuff with iceshot in maps.

Especially compared to lightning arrow.

i can clear stuff fine outside of maps but still not as fast as lightning arrow.

You ask me to pm me my build but me and my freind both have standard char that we switch to full physical and try full crit, Lightning Arrow still beats it by far in group fights. Not single target.

Even if the tooltip say iceshot does more dmg lightning arrow will still do more dmg/clear fastest when there is a group of mob.

But right now playing onslaught trying out a CI Crit Iceshot build since would take the least points to maximize and gonna try to use incrase crit damage + malgero and alot of crit multiplier items. Of course ill pick up vaal pact + ghost reaver so i dont one shot myself on reflect.

Ill switch between LA and Iceshot once i hit 70+ and doing maps.

Right now im 45 still leveling.

habbey, if you could pm me the build as well i'd like to see it too.

Guys... cmon, rly? You rly think that LA or Exp Ar or RoA worse then Ice Shot? Srsly? O_0`
Holy Moly, omg.
Ice Shot much more worse then any skill that can be used with Bow. Worst in game.
Quality most useless and worst idea i have ever see.
To freeze with Ice Shot you need 18.9 AS per sec, just to little bit chance freeze. Chill dont stacks with Temp Chain... and DPS from Ice Shot vs other skills most smaller, and hard to inc.
If quality give chance to Freeze or somethink more usefull and better mybe Ice Shot will be normal skill, but nope.
I try 2 chars with Ice Shot as main skill, pain and long. 1 Map just for 2 Hours maraphone.

Ice Shot need rework/Buffs.