Official Blender Post! Lets theory craft for 1.2! 123k Cleave DPS!

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yes you can. you wont be able to use whirling blade thats all.
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HyperPanda wrote:
@Aerinqq

Cleave on BoR +weapon elemental+multistrike+added fire if my math is not wrong would cost about 47-52 mana to use.

so with this i hope you can get some ballpark range about how much mana you will need.

In my opinion 450 is enough, but if you can have 500 mana it would be really great.

The way people uses 4 auras is different based on personal preference.

I like to have 3 aura (doesnt matter which one) + 1 reduced mana gem in my 4 link boots. With 440 mana, i have enough mana pool to sustain running aura on mana. The last one i have or the 4th, i use another reduced mana and blood magic on it. The life reserve is really small if you reduced mana it.

15k dps 2% mana leech is more than enough of mana leech to get 52 mana so you can use cleave.

hope this help


First of all thx for the response. I tested it today with 3% mana leech, 200 FREE mana and it was barely possible (just did quick test in docks, things die just too fast) but my mana drained simply more then I was gettin back and on any unique boss it would leave me with no mana at all in no time...do you have to cast the warlords mark everytime or what does the trick and it works for you but not for me? Or do you just spam the mana flask?
We did some testing with a friend whos running the same build and it seems he can sustain it at 267 free mana (disabled purity), 5% mana leech and 22K dps (tested only on Kole who dies in 3-6 second so need to do some further testing). Whats your dps, mana leech and free mana pls?
Hi All,

I have a few questions -

1. I am wearing Wurms Molt with 2% mana and life leech
At what point does the leeching begin?

2. I do not have BoR and Soul Taker
Is it a must to get Unwavering Stance?

3. I am currently at 1.6K HP and 8K DPS for Cleave
How much more HP should I get?

4. I find myself running out of mana with only two Auras Grace and Determination
How can i remedy this?


Thanks!
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Cycl3 wrote:

Kole is also a problem for me at lv74 with BoR, he can 1 hit me on crit (or desync), more hp is needed (can't chrome blue on my gear for enfeeble). Piety isn't a problem unless shocked. (2k hp and 10k armor)

But you made a mistake on armor:
Spoiler
The damage reduction shown is a "estimated" reduction calculated by average dmg of mob at your lv. As you lv up, the average dmg of mob increased and damage reduction shown is reduced.
Also, armor is less effective on big hit. i.e. a kole hit wouldn't be reduced by 81% in your case, you can check wiki for the formula


yeah, i think i was mislead by the youtube video which was posted cuz he did have a ton of armor and endurance charges while tanking hits from kole. I assumed that it would mitigate majority of the damage. Plus there was no blocking from the video.


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HyperPanda wrote:
@xiaozozo

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But you made a mistake on armor:
Spoiler
The damage reduction shown is a "estimated" reduction calculated by average dmg of mob at your lv. As you lv up, the average dmg of mob increased and damage reduction shown is reduced.
Also, armor is less effective on big hit. i.e. a kole hit wouldn't be reduced by 81% in your case, you can check wiki for the formula


Cycl3, explained it to you very well. Armor has a diminishing return, especially against big hitter like Kole.

I noticed you said you dont have enough life leech to tank him, maybe try to use warlord's mark curse(more life leech and mana leech) instead of temporal chain curse.


thanks for highlighting. I only have 4% life leech, 2%from blood drinker and 2% from wurms molt. Is it sufficient? I dont encounter problems fighting normal mobs or piety. Just tankier bosses like Kole or other map bosses. Perhaps once i activate blood rage it will be sufficient?
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Aerinqq wrote:

First of all thx for the response. I tested it today with 3% mana leech, 200 FREE mana and it was barely possible (just did quick test in docks, things die just too fast) but my mana drained simply more then I was gettin back and on any unique boss it would leave me with no mana at all in no time...do you have to cast the warlords mark everytime or what does the trick and it works for you but not for me? Or do you just spam the mana flask?
We did some testing with a friend whos running the same build and it seems he can sustain it at 267 free mana (disabled purity), 5% mana leech and 22K dps (tested only on Kole who dies in 3-6 second so need to do some further testing). Whats your dps, mana leech and free mana pls?


just wanted to share my thoughts.

My dps was about 5k-6k and available mana after aura reserve was about 140? (sorry couldnt remember exact as that was 8 levels go). I was using a 4L cleave/multistrke/addedfire/meleephy

I realise that you need to fight in pack mobs, and not "solo" mobs or bosses. In pack mobs, you mana leech much faster and will be able to sustain mana cost with just 2%m (using wurm's molt belt). Just compare it to x2p's video.

For solo mobs, i do have minor mana issues, so i just used mana potion.
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What about using Reave instead of Cleave? In less than a second you should have an insane AoE many times larger than Cleave
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Araycan wrote:
What about using Reave instead of Cleave? In less than a second you should have an insane AoE many times larger than Cleave


I use Reave with a similar build and it works really well. That being said, I wouldn't run Reave as Dual Wield unless you use Soul Taker as Offhand, there's really not that much benefit in doing so.
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Last edited by Xybb#4892 on Oct 12, 2013, 6:32:52 AM
Im Kind of poor so i cant afford all gems with 20% Quality. Which one is Quality most important?

€dit: and i love this build ! It Looks so cool to Smash through things and it does fantastic damage too ....
Last edited by return33#2156 on Oct 13, 2013, 2:27:42 PM
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return33 wrote:
Im Kind of poor so i cant afford all gems with 20% Quality. Which one is Quality most important?

€dit: and i love this build ! It Looks so cool to Smash through things and it does fantastic damage too ....


Cleave and Multistrike are most important, dont rly need quality on anything else tbh
Hi,

I am currently following this build while leveling. However, I am at level 52 and I have trouble progressing. I am dying too fast to spells. any tips on moving forward in leveling it? this is my first character.

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