Official Blender Post! Lets theory craft for 1.2! 123k Cleave DPS!
" Thanks a lot. I am definitely keeping up with all the + Life and + Resist nodes. I played a Marauder this week to 47 Using heavy strike and ground slam tanky build, but it is super plain and boring. Lol Chris plz
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Got some questions for someone who previously tested this build and is rly familiar with it
There are currently 3 ways to go for me with Bringer, cleave+multi+added fire, question is what to chose as a 4th gem: 1) Reduced mana, get some mana leech, around 2% should be sufficient 2) Go Blood magic and can totally skip mana leech (so I can focus on other stats and not to worry about items that they must have mana leech) 3) Go higher mana/int and high mana leech and use Weapon Ele (not even sure if its possible to sustain it? but if yes, it might be worth the massive damage increase) I know this wouldnt be relevant with Soul Taker but sadly I dont have one and according to its price I am not sure if Ill ever get one Also lets say I have to chose between gloves with added physical, lets say 5-10 or ones with 10% attack speed, which will do more damage? How much chaos resist is needed to survive high level maps? thanks in advance |
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This is what happens when you play this build:
 Total annihilation! IGN: Thrandiyr Last edited by meatnoodles#7583 on Oct 9, 2013, 9:21:20 PM
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@meatnoodles
Nice coward trial clear! build so fun! @Aerinqq This is what amazing about this build. you, yourself, have mention the perfect examples of so many possibilities for this build. This is not by any means is the best choice, but here is my opinion. mana leech is easily acquired from amulets or glove or rings if you have one piece that already have 2% mana leech, you can top off your dps with weapon elemental. Yes, you will need a little more mana. not by much tho. I think this is the better option, its standard league trying to kill something before they kill you give me a thrill. 2% mana leech from let say 5k cleave thats already 100 mana leech/ attack. with the curse warlord's mark you should have more than enough mana leech. (cleave doesnt cost a lot of mana) For going blood magic, in my opinion not the best choice. Here is a reason why, life leech is not instant because we do not take vaal pact passives nodes, and life build doesn't usually take vaal pact because we need the help of our life pot from time to time.(also not to mention desync) The build focus a lot of dps, and just enough survivability. We aren't the tankiest duelist out there. For not having large HP pool and life leech is not instant, in my book is not the best option. For attck speed or phys dmg which one better, its hard to tell it depends on your other gear. if you have really high dmg phys weapon (350-400+)then perhaphs attck speed is better for the overall set. For chaos resistant i found that at around 40%, i never run into chaos mobs that really do serious dmg to me even in 70s maps. The more you have the better. having a lot of life regeneration always helps too. Again this is just my opinion, they are not set in stone. Hope it help If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything.
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hey guys, having some problems with my character now. Currently level69.
Im having trouble trying to tank Koll (or even kite+kill). As i level, my damage reduction reduces. My current arnmor is abotu 5000ish with determination gives me about 40% dmg reduction. Coupled with granite flask and 3 endurance charges, im at roughly 81% dmg reduction. Im using a temporal chains curse on Koll as well. This however, Koll just 3 shots me so fast that my life leech isn't healing me fast enough. - 7.8k dps cleave - 2.2k hp, 1900~ after reserve - 5000~ armor - Determination, Hatred, Grace (blood magic) - Maxed fire/cold/lightning - No Bringer of Rain. The funny thing is, Piety seems easier than Koll. I am able to face tank her, in normal or in fire mode with temp chains casted. Sometimes i may need to kite, but during the few runs i did with my Duelist, piety isnt much of a problem for now. Any tips guys? IGN: @McDeliveryOnFlurry - Legacy Softcore add me if i win or if my bids are lower than c/o Last edited by xiaozozo#2448 on Oct 10, 2013, 3:34:20 AM
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" Kole is also a problem for me at lv74 with BoR, he can 1 hit me on crit (or desync), more hp is needed (can't chrome blue on my gear for enfeeble). Piety isn't a problem unless shocked. (2k hp and 10k armor) But you made a mistake on armor:
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The damage reduction shown is a "estimated" reduction calculated by average dmg of mob at your lv. As you lv up, the average dmg of mob increased and damage reduction shown is reduced.
Also, armor is less effective on big hit. i.e. a kole hit wouldn't be reduced by 81% in your case, you can check wiki for the formula Master 8: All CyclERa 93 TS/Puncture, CyclEWS 89 LL-ST thread /463641 GMT+8 Last edited by Cycl3#2351 on Oct 10, 2013, 4:42:41 AM
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" thanks for the response, I have currently 15K dps but thats without 20/20 cleave and multistrike which I cannot use yet cos I am lvl 67 and also without weapon ele and with some horrible gear pieces that I need to replace so I expect to hit much much more. But the thing I need to figure out is how much mana and mana leech exactly I need to get to be able to use weapon ele. Important question, do you run all 4 auras, purity, determination, hatred on mana and grace on health? Is it even possible to run 3 auras off of mana and still have enough mana pool to use setup with weapon ele? The whole problem is if I chose to go this way (weapon ele) I need to fully optimize the rest of my gear I need to replace around it (to stack some more mana leech, int/mana) which I wouldnt need if I would go without weapon ele, but I need to calculate it beforehand not to be unpleasantly surprised that in the final I cant run it. |
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can i use another axe and use blood magic gem replace a Soul taker ??
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@xiaozozo
" Cycl3, explained it to you very well. Armor has a diminishing return, especially against big hitter like Kole. I noticed you said you dont have enough life leech to tank him, maybe try to use warlord's mark curse(more life leech and mana leech) instead of temporal chain curse. If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything.
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@Aerinqq
Cleave on BoR +weapon elemental+multistrike+added fire if my math is not wrong would cost about 47-52 mana to use. so with this i hope you can get some ballpark range about how much mana you will need. In my opinion 450 is enough, but if you can have 500 mana it would be really great. The way people uses 4 auras is different based on personal preference. I like to have 3 aura (doesnt matter which one) + 1 reduced mana gem in my 4 link boots. With 440 mana, i have enough mana pool to sustain running aura on mana. The last one i have or the 4th, i use another reduced mana and blood magic on it. The life reserve is really small if you reduced mana it. 15k dps 2% mana leech is more than enough of mana leech to get 52 mana so you can use cleave. hope this help If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything.
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